Jan. 31, 2006, 9:12 a.m. (Message 43980)
Richard, I suspect your comments are more representative of the position twenty years ago but the kilt is very much alive and well in Scotland today. For example, the other week I was in the supermarket in Perth and all three oft he men shopping in one aisle were wearing the kilt - the fact that it was the booze aisle was mere happenstance :) Jim Healy Monaco
Jan. 31, 2006, 10:30 a.m. (Message 43984, in reply to message 43980)
Jim Healy wrote: > For example, the other week I was in the supermarket in Perth and all three > of the men shopping in one aisle were wearing the kilt - the fact that it > was the booze aisle was mere happenstance :) Would that be including your dashing self? Anselm :^) -- Anselm Lingnau, Frankfurt, Germany ..................... xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx A fashion is nothing but an induced epidemic. -- George Bernard Shaw
Jan. 31, 2006, 8:34 p.m. (Message 43998, in reply to message 43980)
Not quite 20 years ago, was there two summers ago at St Andrews, and at least a weekend twice a year on family business. While I would agree that Perth would be a likely place to have seen this, it is just possible that if you went back to the same store you would have seen none. For the same reasons probably, one is more likely to see national dress here in a small town or village instead of Palma. In either case, it is a matter of dimension, the typical Scottish male of today must rent a kilt for a wedding or social event (not counting SC or H dancing), this makes it a folk costume and not clothes. BTW, a few years back, I got attacked for the same logic, when I was attending an Indian powwow in southern California (none of the tribes represented were of California, and Souix were the majority). I was told that these were not costume, but native dress. To which I asked how many were in attendance compared to all the indians of his tribe in Southern California, answer about 1%. To which I suggested that if the majority of the other 99% did not own "native dress" or wear it in the course of one´s daly life, then it was a costume (easier for Amerinds, because, unlike the Scots, the women´s costume is more commonly seen than the mens). The local, Malloruí, equivalent of being Scottish by wearing a bit of tratan, is found here with neckerchiefs (boy scout type of triangle, with no slide). On some feasts even the priest and altar boys wear them during mass, choirs commonly use them as the only uniform part of their uniform, as do teams and fans. They are almost the equivalent of fan t-shirts in the U.S. Besides around the neck, they are used as belts, arm and leg bands, and while girls wear them on their head as any scarf, men often wear them as an accessory to our local costume (sort of Pirates-of-the-Carribean), for men, except the foot wear for dancing groups are two tone brown and white golf shoes (socks are such an option here, that at an important mass, one can identify the bishop because he is the one with black shoes and socks, all the others look like Franciscans..
Feb. 2, 2006, 11:40 p.m. (Message 44060, in reply to message 43998)
At my wedding (18 months ago in Scotland) there were somewhere in the region of 100 males present at the evening reception. Of these, I would say at least 80 of them were in kilts. Out of these 80, less than 5 had hired their kilt for the evening. (And before you ask, less than half of them were dancers). I know a number of men who wear a kilt rather than a suit to any formal occasion (in fact, a number of them don't own a suit). While it might not be as common as wearing trousers, it is certainly not an unusual occurrence to see people doing every day activities in their kilts around my area of Scotland. Seonaid Markinch, Fife --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail