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Ian Thomson

Ian Thomson

Jan. 22, 2002, 3:21 a.m. (Message 29213)

With regard to this topic, I'd like to share this with you: When I was a 
very new dancer I attended  my first social, and one of the dances had a 
Ladies' Chain in it. In a panic I turned to the gentleman next to me, (who 
was aged about 80) and asked him how it was done.
"Easy", he replied. "Just wander round in a circle and turn whoever comes 
to you!" Not quite how Miss Milligan would have described it but it worked 
for me. I've never had any problems with it since then.
Happy dancing,
Ian



Ian Thomson,
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Iain Boyd and Noeline O'Connor

Iain Boyd and Noeline O'Connor

Jan. 24, 2002, 9:59 p.m. (Message 29261, in reply to message 29213)

Greetings all,

>Is it that the ladies just dance it?      
Helen

That is just the trouble - they do not!


>The women already know that they have to find a man and, having just left one, they
do not have a lot of options. At the same time, the men, having just lost a partner,
are left with whomever, they can find. The figure is so logical that it works without
analysis.      
Richard

Unfortunately, it does not! I have been in far too many sets where the women have
got lost and have no idea where to go.


>I dance the ladies' chain in contra dances all the time.  There is never any discussion
about how to do the figure, what is the correct form. The ladies cross giving right
hands, the men turn then, they repeat back to place. There are lots of variations,
mostly of the spin and twirl variety, and these are tolerated as long as they do
not interfere with the timing of the figure.      Sylvia

We are dancing Scottish country dancing NOT contra dancing. ‘Spins and twirls’ might
be acceptable in contra dancing but, generally, they are not acceptable in Scottish
country dancing. 


Iain Boyd

Wellington
New Zealand
Fyreladdie

Fyreladdie

Jan. 24, 2002, 10:36 p.m. (Message 29264, in reply to message 29213)

Iain

<< We are dancing Scottish country dancing NOT contra dancing. ‘Spins and 
twirls’ might

be acceptable in contra dancing but, generally, they are not acceptable in 
Scottish

country dancing. 

 >>

I must agree that spins and twirls take away some of the beauty of SCD. 
Because there is no formal footwork in Contra, the twirls and spins can be 
executed easy enough. In my experience some of these twirls interrupt the 
flow of the dance, enough to compromise the other dancers beginning the next 
phrase. I can enjoy both forms of dancing but rather like the clean 
uncluttered look of SCD. I write my own dances with no extraneous figures to 
infringe on the flow and enjoyment of the dance. 
    I do not think that one can compare Contra Ladies Chain to SCD Ladies 
Chain with too much success. They are similar only in the execution of 
getting women to one side and then back. Enjoy each type as you will, but it 
would be unfair to say they should both be the same. 

Bob Mc Murtry
Felton, Calif
SallenNic

SallenNic

Jan. 25, 2002, 11:58 a.m. (Message 29282, in reply to message 29213)

In a message dated 24/1/02 8:00:36 pm, xxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx writes:

>We are dancing Scottish country dancing NOT contra dancing. ‘Spins and
>twirls’ might be acceptable in contra dancing but, generally, they are not 
acceptable
>in Scottish country dancing. 

>Iain Boyd

There are plenty of Scottish country dancers outwith the RSCDS to whom extra 
spins and twirls are perfectly acceptable.

Nicolas B., Lanark, Scotland.
Pia Walker

Pia Walker

Jan. 25, 2002, 12:27 p.m. (Message 29284, in reply to message 29282)

I have twirled/birled/spun with the best - isn't that right Jim Healy :>)

Pia
Scotland - birling member of RSCDS
SMiskoe

SMiskoe

Jan. 25, 2002, 1:29 p.m. (Message 29288, in reply to message 29213)

I was not advocating spins and twirls.  I was trying to point out that this 
same figure in a different genre (contra dance) is danced with variations 
from the strict traditional form and people just dance and enjoy it, they do 
not micromanage it.  It is one of the more common figures found in contra 
dancing and one can expect to do it 4 or 5 times in an evening.
Cheers,
Sylvia Miskoe, Concord, NH USA

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