July 27, 2000, 3:30 p.m. (Message 22002)
I believe Ann McBride just mentioned a source for kilts with cellphone pockets!!! My reaction would have been/and probably still is "egads!", = but for a sight I never expected to see on the SCD dance floor: a woman on = a cellphone in a set!!! As one who increasingly abhors cellphones and = all their implications, I was both appalled and shocked. Nevertheless, it = did strike a deep funnybone. Wish I could have captured it on a good = photo. What a poster!!! Maybe big bucks for RSCDS from a cellphone company's marketing budget. :-) And lots of new class members. Would we move = into the 21st Century? Or would we just be fuddy-duddies on cellphones. = And would we welcome that kind of advertising? And so I muse on..... = Maybe it's better to remain small in numbers.... And what is our protocol vis-=E0-vis cellphones on the dancefloor???? Marilynn Latta Knight Columbia, SC(where the weather has been wonderfully gray and skies have = even dropped rain now & then and people may even be thinking the planet is "cooling".)
July 27, 2000, 9:44 p.m. (Message 22004, in reply to message 22002)
IMHO: cell phones in a set would be EXTREMELY rude. I could see where it would be a "first time funny", but after that not. In this modern age at the beginning of concerts and other large gatherings of people for entertainment the MC requests that all cell phones and pagers be turned off. So far it hasn't been an issue around here because most folks have the sense (and consideration of their fellow dancers) to turn the things off. But it may be that in the future the MC may have to remind folks. I sure hope it doesn't come to that. Coletta Busse Milpitas, CA SF Branch
July 28, 2000, 12:23 a.m. (Message 22005, in reply to message 22004)
IM (not so humble) O, only a very small subset of cell phone users (such as doctors on call, parents with small children at home with a babysitter) would even be justified in leaving them turned on during a dance or dance class. Even then, they should use a cell phone with a voice mail service so that they can leave it on the sidelines during a dance or lesson, and return the call after the dance/lesson finishes. Few things won't wait that long, and if they won't, the cell-phone-bearer probably shouldn't even be at the event. A good pager would be better. I believe, however, most folks who carry a cell phone everywhere are doing so for rather trivial reasons, like trying to appear trendy. Coletta is absolutely right; cell phones in a set is unacceptably rude. Of course, so is chatting in the set while the teacher is trying to teach, or stepping across the set to talk to one's partner during a dance, or any of a number of other inconsiderate things I see all the time. Teachers should correct anyone who does these things. As Chapter 3 of the RSCDS manual says, teamwork is essential to proper Scottish Country Dancing. Every member of a set has an obligation to observe what is happening in the set and anticipate what is about to take place in order to mantain the continuous flow of the dance (pg 3.5). Any of the behaviors above are inconsistent with that obligation. Opinionatedly yours, Lee
July 28, 2000, 12:32 a.m. (Message 22006, in reply to message 22002)
I'd love to see a dance where everyone had a cell phone stuck in their ear. Just make it a funny dance. (Everyone should get the message then!) Call it the Cell Phone Polka! -- May neither your strings nor your spirit ever break, May your harp and your soul always be in tune. Rita
July 28, 2000, 12:49 a.m. (Message 22007, in reply to message 22002)
How about doing it as a conference call and briefing the dance as theyt dance;-) Kirk Bachler Twin Cities Branch,RSCDS
July 28, 2000, 10:32 a.m. (Message 22013, in reply to message 22002)
(This has no connection to SCD but I can't resist). I have just come back from a few weeks holiday in Ireland. During the trip it was blindingly obvious that the latest craze is indeed cellphones. No teenager was without one. Either using it for a conversation or pressing furiously at the buttons with an intense look on the face. The most striking symptom was at the cinema. I have been well used (and amused) for many years now to see, as people exit the cinema, how the smokers wildly grab at their cigarette packs and one can walk into a wall of smoke which builds within seconds of the film finishing. The smokers are now being seriously challenged by the number who cannot wait to whip out their mobiles. What happens with a smoker who carries one of these devices? Alan -- Alan Paterson Berne, Switzerland mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx
July 28, 2000, 10:54 a.m. (Message 22014, in reply to message 22002)
I agree that it's a disease with many people, but there are some who's jobs require it! Not just the obvious medical people, either. I have to admit to doing it once or twice, and as a teacher too. But then, whilst I was dancing the night away, some poor soul was stuck in a half-built hospital trying to install a medical body scanner to an stupidly short time schedule and he needed my advice..... my phone can just vibrate and not squawk and tells me who it is/was, so I can just calmly find a quiet corner and help him out. Besides, it plays Mary Printy! But conference calling a dance with hands free mobiles - wonderful for a complicated dem or those large halls as an MC! Andrew Dewdney
July 29, 2000, 8:57 a.m. (Message 22022, in reply to message 22014)
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Dewdney Andrew wrote: > But conference calling a dance with hands free mobiles - wonderful for a > complicated dem or those large halls as an MC! > Andrew Dewdney I more envisioned something like the teachers exam meets The Millionair Show - Dancer on the floor, forgets what the next move is. "I'd like to use one of my lifelines - I want to make a call" Wips out the cell phone Michael Hanson, Seattle, WA, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way, Local Group, ...
July 28, 2000, 6:21 p.m. (Message 22016, in reply to message 22002)
I was at a dance once, and we were quite happily dancing "The Saint John River" when, suddenly, a phone rang. It was for the first man, who was do= ing "dance down the middle and up" . He reached into his sporran and answered it. We all chuckled as he red-facedly spoke into the phone: "Uh, I'm danc= ing right now. Yes, dancing. Listen, I can't talk right now, can I call you back?" He did apologize afterwards, said he'd forgotten to turn it off. I suppose that emcees will have to remind people to "please turn off your cellphones" at the beginning of the evening? Cheers, Colleen > I believe Ann McBride just mentioned a source for kilts with cellphone > pockets!!! My reaction would have been/and probably still is "egads!", but > for a sight I never expected to see on the SCD dance floor: a woman on= a > cellphone in a set!!! As one who increasingly abhors cellphones and al= l > their implications, I was both appalled and shocked. Nevertheless, it = did > strike a deep funnybone. Wish I could have captured it on a good photo. > What a poster!!! Maybe big bucks for RSCDS from a cellphone company's > marketing budget. :-) And lots of new class members. Would we move i= nto > the 21st Century? Or would we just be fuddy-duddies on cellphones. An= d > would we welcome that kind of advertising? And so I muse on..... Mayb= e > it's better to remain small in numbers.... And what is our protocol > vis-=E0-vis cellphones on the dancefloor???? > > Marilynn Latta Knight > Columbia, SC(where the weather has been wonderfully gray and skies have even
July 29, 2000, 8:44 p.m. (Message 22026, in reply to message 22002)
The Cell Phone Jig Hold the cell phone in your left hand. 1 - 8 1s cast off and back to place (it would be proper to phone one's partner) 9 - 12 1s & 2s Right Hands Across 13 - 16 1s cross by the right and cast off 17 - 20 1s & 3s Right Hands Across 21 - 24 1s dance half figure of eight around 2s 25 - 32 1s turn first corner by right, pass right shoulder turn second corner by right, pass right sh to place Gary Knox San Francisco Branch
July 29, 2000, 11:38 p.m. (Message 22027, in reply to message 22002)
And, what would the signature tune be? Lots of busy signals, crackles, and static? Marilynn Columbia, SC where the day is just a properly wonderful summer day anywhere in the world(almost...). Which is very rare for us'ns...
July 30, 2000, 2:08 a.m. (Message 22028, in reply to message 22002)
Looks like great fun, and a potential ceilidh act - Do you close the cellphone connection in lieu of final bows and curtsies? (I don't have a cellphone - do you say "hang up?) Thanks! Miriam
July 30, 2000, 1:23 p.m. (Message 22030, in reply to message 22002)
> And, what would the signature tune be? Pennsylvania 6-5000? Dianna Dianna L. Shipman xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx PMB 134, 1436 W. Gray Houston, TX 77019-4946 Scottish Country Dancing and More web page: http://home.att.net/~diannashipman phone: 713-522-1212
July 30, 2000, 5:23 p.m. (Message 22031, in reply to message 22002)
Dianna, I had the exact same question yesterday for my fiddler son David up in DC. My knee-jerk reaction is the Dr. Seuss Songbook which no one but me seems to know or love. I can actually hear one of his songs with lyrics to match the directions for Cell Phone Jig, and, as Miriam says, it just seems like marvelous ceilidh material. Maybe a plethora of celiedh acts will result from this little "cell phone chat"!!!! :) Marilynn Latta Knight Columbia, SC, where the weather is still so civilized that I couldn't blame madness on it, unless it is delayed from the last long dry blast....
July 30, 2000, 9:33 p.m. (Message 22032, in reply to message 22002)
> >> And, what would the signature tune be? > >Pennsylvania 6-5000? > or how about 8 bars of Scotland the Brave, followed by 8 bars of the 1812 Overture, followed by 8 bars of Jingle Bells...... followed by 8 bars of Ring tone 2!! All played with as much electronic feel as possible. In fact all those sitting out the dance could use their phones to join in the music making! If anyone intends to use this, please let me know so that I can avoid that dance. Seonaid
July 31, 2000, 10:35 a.m. (Message 22034, in reply to message 22002)
excellent, but where is the bit where you wobble all over the place as a result of not concentrating and nearly drive off the road?
July 31, 2000, 2:27 p.m. (Message 22035, in reply to message 22034)
Modified final phrase: 25-32 1s turn first corner by the right, pass right shoulder, turn second corner by the right, attempt to pass right shoulder but have head-on collision in middle of set, spinning half way round and careening off each other into second place on own sides. From: Dewdney Andrew <xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx> To: "'xxxxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx-xxxxxxxxx.xx'" <xxxxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx-xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: RE: What will they think of next... Date sent: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:21:48 +0200 Send reply to: xxxxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx-xxxxxxxxx.xx Date forwarded: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:35:44 +0200