Feb. 12, 2006, 11:27 p.m. (Message 44224)
The manual describes that the original formation of RSCDS was for the purposes of teaching Scottish rather than English country dances to the Scottish Girls Guides. However, I find no mention of whether that was actually achieved and if so, how long it lasted. Any insight into this is appreciated. Regards, Alex.
Feb. 13, 2006, 12:28 a.m. (Message 44225, in reply to message 44224)
I don't know about the girl guides, because I was in the girls guildry. In the late 50's/early 60's we did scd for about 30 minutes every Monday night in the church hall. We also did it in school as part of PE. and then in the 70's I taught it in PE. I agree with Stella, not everyone in Scotland does SCD, but thye know what it is! Just as , everyone one in the USA doesn't do square dancing, but everyone is aware of it and what it is! (scarey thought really! :-)) Elaine
Feb. 13, 2006, 3:07 a.m. (Message 44226, in reply to message 44224)
I learned to do Scottish Country Dancing through the Girl Guide movement in Inverness, Scotland between 1958 and 1962. We used to enter the Inverness Music Festival. The entire Guide Company also had to sing in Gaelic in the music festival. At school in Inverness and elsewhere in Scotland, I only had what is now described as Ceilidh dancing. However I do not remember being told anything about the RSCDS, and only knew about Mrs Stewart's involvement with the Scottish Guides from the Manual. Deirdre MacCuish Bark Ontario, Canada
Feb. 13, 2006, 12:54 p.m. (Message 44231, in reply to message 44224)
Although I learned SCD at school and do not remember ever doing it at Guides, I have taught it to (English) Brownies. (7-10year old Guides). Helen in Dublin xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: 5. History question: were SCD actually taught to girl guides (Alexandre Rafalovitch) 6. Re: History question: were SCD actually taught to girl guides (xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx) 7. RE: History question: were SCD actually taught to girl guides (Deirdre MacCuish Bark) 8. girl guides (Stella Fogg) 9. Re: Mapping RSCDS (more high-tech toys) (Alan Paterson) 10. Re: Mapping RSCDS (more high-tech toys) (Sophie Rickebusch) 11. RE: Scottishness to be able to do SCD (Was pas de basque coupe -CORRECTION) (Pia)
Feb. 13, 2006, 1:24 p.m. (Message 44232, in reply to message 44231)
Alex, I do not have my copy of 'An Album for Mrs Stewart' here in the office :) but Mrs Stewart was the Guide Commissioner for Argyll and definitely ensured that Guides were taught SCD in Scotland (and not ECD). In the early days of the Society a number of organisations provided representatives to the forerunner fo the old Executive Council including the Guides and these were duly listed in the original editions of the books. At present, Guides are still dancing in Scotland and, indeed, it is doubtful if the SCD section of the Perth Music Festival would stil be taking place if it were not for the Brownie, Guide and Ranger teams. Jim Healy Monaco ----Original Message Follows---- From: Helen Beaney <xxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Reply-To: SCD news and discussion <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: History question: were SCD actually taught to girl guides Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:54:26 +0000 (GMT) Although I learned SCD at school and do not remember ever doing it at Guides, I have taught it to (English) Brownies. (7-10year old Guides). Helen in Dublin xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: 5. History question: were SCD actually taught to girl guides (Alexandre Rafalovitch) 6. Re: History question: were SCD actually taught to girl guides (xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx) 7. RE: History question: were SCD actually taught to girl guides (Deirdre MacCuish Bark) 8. girl guides (Stella Fogg) 9. Re: Mapping RSCDS (more high-tech toys) (Alan Paterson) 10. Re: Mapping RSCDS (more high-tech toys) (Sophie Rickebusch) 11. RE: Scottishness to be able to do SCD (Was pas de basque coupe -CORRECTION) (Pia)
Feb. 13, 2006, 3:26 p.m. (Message 44237, in reply to message 44224)
In a message dated 2/12/2006 5:29:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx writes: However, I find no mention of whether that was actually achieved and if so, how long it lasted. Not only was SCD taught in Guides - there was a merit badge for SCD. It was one of the first I earned - so that would have been in the early 60s. I just pulled out my uniform (I, who claim NOT to be a pack rat!) and the badge depicts a female "chuchter" - just as I recalled. I suppose the limitations of machine embroidery and available space rendered the figure somewhat stylised! She is dressed in what appears to be a tartan dress (the only badge I possessed that had any red in it - most were just green thread on a black field); she has her left arm on top of her head (monkey fashion), her right arm flailing in the wind; she is wearing what I now interpret as a sash, flying free (though I always thought it resembled bobbing pigtails) and is hopping on her right foot with her left foot crossed (YES, I do mean crossed!) in front of her left leg just below the knee. Enough history? :) Moira Turner Chesterfield VA
Feb. 13, 2006, 4:03 p.m. (Message 44242, in reply to message 44237)
On 2/13/06, xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx <xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote: > > Not only was SCD taught in Guides - there was a merit badge for SCD. It was > one of the first I earned - so that would have been in the early 60s. > I just pulled out my uniform (I, who claim NOT to be a pack rat!) and the > badge depicts a female "chuchter" - just as I recalled. > > Enough history? :) Wow! Anybody has one of this images online? Or could be scanned or photographed and uploaded (even to the frappr maps)? I know RSCDS collects all these (part of the objects, in fact), but I am quite far from Scotland and still would love to see that. Alex.