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0AM7L@SIA

Jan. 28, 2006, 3:48 p.m. (Message 43905)

About workshops:  Not everyone is 'local' and has had the luxury of
practicing 16+ dances weeks ahead of time like the sponsoring branch has.

We Detroiters can attend workshops in neighboring states and Ontario, and
we're lucky if we get to do even some of the dances once before we go.  (If
Branch dancers are going to different events, it's impossible to work on ALL
those dances, so we have to 'take turns' requesting dances.)

With new & intermediate dancers, they're heading to an out-of-town weekend
with only a brief review (if any) of 16-18 dances in their heads, and don't
need a strange new dance sprung on them (been there, done that, more times
than I care to remember).

They are going because it's a _workshop_ and they need work on their
_skills_, not a larger repertoire of dances.

I am speaking from the dancer's standpoint, _not_ the teacher.  The only
reason my husband and I attend workshops any more is to encourage our new
dancers to go.  I'm thinking of them and their jam-packed brains.  1st and
2nd year dancers NEED someone other than their regular teacher to 'whip them
into shape' but not fear losing them.  Many people don't absorb 'polite'
suggestions from their teachers about improving their technique, and need an
independent party to get through to them (i.e., workshop leader).

A workshop should be to improve one's dancing skills.  Our regular teachers
can teach us new and/or complicated dances any time.  No need to drive a
couple hours for that.

I've made my suggestion, and I can see it's been taken to heart (by some).
That's all I ask. 

Margaret
Kirk Bachler

Kirk Bachler

Jan. 28, 2006, 5:24 p.m. (Message 43910, in reply to message 43905)

As a long time dancer and a teacher  and with a wife who is relatively new
to SCD I agree most heartily that "away events" should be for fun and /or
skill development. The best workshops I've attended were those that improved
skills and gave new/fresh insight into dancing and technique rather than
experiences of "dance collecting". The best social events  or balls were
those that were fun with a bit of challenge but NOT a string of  arcane or
"hotshot" dances especially those that require "rehearsal"

  Kirk Bachler
Twin Cities Branch ,Minneapolis,Mn

We have met the enemy and he is us!
Susan McKinnell

Susan McKinnell

Jan. 28, 2006, 8:26 p.m. (Message 43914, in reply to message 43905)

I find I like workshops that teach technique and new figures.
We always schedule a ball walkthrough on Saturday afternoon for those 
who'd like to review the dances on the evening's ball program.
Sue
Chicago, IL USA
Shameless plug: our annual weekend workshop is the second weekend in June:
http://rscds-chicago.org (click "Events")

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Susan McKinnell        xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx         http://suedan.com

"A house without a cat, and a well-fed, well-petted, and properly
revered cat, may be a perfect house, perhaps, but how can it prove
its title?"
- Mark Twain, The Tragedy of Pudd'nhead Wilson
Ron Mackey

Ron Mackey

Jan. 29, 2006, 1:57 a.m. (Message 43922, in reply to message 43914)

> I find I like workshops that teach technique and new figures.
> We always schedule a ball walkthrough on Saturday afternoon for those 
> who'd like to review the dances on the evening's ball program.
> Sue
> Chicago, IL USA


	Hooray!! :))
Ian Brockbank

Ian Brockbank

Feb. 1, 2006, 11:27 a.m. (Message 44015, in reply to message 43905)

Hi Margaret,

> They are going because it's a _workshop_ and they need work on their
> _skills_, not a larger repertoire of dances.

There are so many dances out there that the emphasis should be on learning
dancing, not dances.  By which I mean learning the standard figures and
steps and how to fit them together.  If you take that approach, and don't
try to remember individual dances as whole units, it really doesn't matter
whether the skills are taught in the dance from the evening or in a
different dance, since they are transferable.  In fact, the skills may be
_better_ taught in a different dance which allows the figure to be
concentrated on better.

If I went to a workshop and dance, and the workshop was just a teaching
session for the dances from the evening, I would feel cheated.  The reason I
go to workshops is to learn new figures/techniques and get a different
perspective from that given by my usual teacher.  I don't learn dances to
add to my repertoire - I learn figures.  That way what I learn is useful
even if I never do the dance again.

Having said that, in Edinburgh we usually have two dances in the evening
dance following our day school nominated as "Teacher's Choice" - the idea
being that this is a chance to try out one of the dances from each class in
a social setting.

Cheers,

Ian Brockbank
Edinburgh, Scotland
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http://www.scottishdance.net/

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