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  • Rod Downey

    Rod Downey July 9, 2011, 3:34 a.m. (Message 61083)

    Re: Tandem Reels (was Re: Reels in Bishop of Columbus)

    alas; there are things which cannot be changed,
    and petronella turn is now part of the millieu.
    I wonder if this is what the movement was called before
    the RSCDS.
    However, it is not a good plan for the future.
    On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Bruce wrote:
    > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 18:21:07 -0700
    > From: Bruce <>
    > Reply-To:
    > To: "" <>
    > Subject: Re: Tandem Reels (was Re: Reels in Bishop of Columbus)
    > If so what do YOU call petronella turns?
    > Bruce Herbold
    > On Jul 8, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Rod Downey <> wrote:
    >> Hi Anselm,
    >> your points are well taken, but I did not advocate using Falcon Reels
    >> but personally use ``swapover reels'' which is descriptive.
    >> Naming formations  is something which should be done without
    animals, birds, nor references to particular dances.
    >> best
    >> rod
    >> On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Anselm Lingnau wrote:
    >>> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 02:19:19 +0200
    >>> From: Anselm Lingnau <>
    >>> Reply-To:
    >>> To:
    >>> Subject: Re: Tandem Reels (was Re: Reels in Bishop of Columbus)
    >>> Rod Downey wrote:
    >>>> It is unfortunate that because of
    >>>> the penetration of the RSCDS books compared to privately published ones
    >>>> formations often become attributed to the first RSCDS source rather than
    >>>> the original place someone published.
    >>> »The Flight of the Falcon« is in »Anniversary Tensome«, which was published to
    >>> commemorate the 10th anniversary, in 1992, of the RSCDS Sutton Coldfield
    >>> branch. The late Barry Priddey was probably more timely about publishing his
    >>> anniversary books than yours truly, so it is reasonable to assume that the
    >>> book actually came out at around that time.
    >>> »Pelorus Jack«, before the RSCDS picked it up for Book 41 in 2000, appeared in
    >>> Barry Skelton's »Dolphin Book«, which is dated 1994 (along with a whole bunch
    >>> of other dances featuring the same style of reel). With private publication of
    >>> dance books being as Rod describes, and with Barry Priddey being based in the
    >>> UK and Barry Skelton in New Zealand, it is not at all unlikely that we have a
    >>> case of »parallel invention« here, especially as it is impossible to say after
    >>> the fact exactly when the two Barrys came up with the actual dances, as
    >>> opposed to publishing the books. So, at least from the accessible evidence, I
    >>> personally would be hesitant about making statements like »These so-called
    >>> ›dolphin reels‹ must be called ›falcon reels‹ because Priddey had them first«.
    >>> Which is not to say that maybe it wasn't one of the Society's brightest ideas
    >>> to call the formation a »tandem reel« in the Manual. It is probably sensible
    >>> to stay away from cutesy formation names involving animals (much like we're
    >>> told to stay away from cutesy formation names involving kitchen utensils
    >>> except for porridge stirrers), but I would defy anyone riding a two-seater
    >>> bicycle to change places twice while going around a tight figure-of-eight
    >>> curve.
    >>> Anselm
    >>> --
    >>> Anselm Lingnau, Mainz/Mayence, Germany .................
    >>> Love all, trust a few. Do wrong to none.                -- William Shakespeare

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