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Australian Ladies
Ian Thomson
Oct. 9, 2001, 4:38 a.m. (Message 27804)
Have a look at "MiniCrib". It contains instructions for most dances, which
can be down-loaded for crib sheets. Incidentally, there seem to be two
dances, both called "Australian Ladies".
Ian Thomson,
"Braeburn",
27 Thomas Place,
Upper Kedron,
Queensland 4055, Australia.
Ph. (07) 3851 1164
E-mail: x.xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx
or xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx.xx
G'Day Brian, I just remembered, a couple of years ago I had the programme for a social dance on the out going message on my answer-phone, dancers could phone in and get the dance programme, the final dance was Australian Ladies. The in-coming tape had a mans voice saying "I didn't think there was any" Wasn't that awful Murray Wilson Auckland NZ
The man's grammar is even worse!!
At 08:45 12/10/01 +1300, you wrote:
>G'Day Brian,
>I just remembered, a couple of years ago I had the programme for a social
>dance on the out going message on my answer-phone, dancers could phone in
>and get the dance programme, the final dance was Australian Ladies.
>The in-coming tape had a mans voice saying "I didn't think there was any"
>Wasn't that awful
>Murray Wilson
>Auckland
>NZ
Ian Thomson,
"Braeburn",
27 Thomas Place,
Upper Kedron,
Queensland 4055, Australia.
Ph. (07) 3851 1164
E-mail: x.xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx
or xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx.xx
> From: Ian Thomson <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx.xx>
> Subject: Australian Ladies 1
>
> I have it on the very best authority that this dance was devised in May
> 1967 in New Zealand by Bob Campbell of Canada for Jean Conway, Elma See,
> Lorraine Dyall,
> and Margaret Gray of the Newcastle (Aust.) Colleges Strathspey and Reel
> Club.
> Elma See was one of the distinguished teachers at the 26th Australian
> Winter School held here in Brisbane recently. (This is the version where
> the corners set and cross while the dancing couple keep crossing between
> them to the right.)
>
>
>
Hi,
Of the four Australian ladies mentioned above, only on Elma See is
still actively involved with Scottish Country Dancing. The dance was
written by Bob Campbell who was inspired by a photograph of a winning
competition team at the Highland Games on New years day in Sydney in the
early 60s. He wrote the dance to a pipe tune, Australian Ladies.
Unfortunately, the Australian men in the team seem to have been forgotten.
One of them, Heinz Duewell, was also at the Queensland winter school, still
dancing at 80. Elma See's husband, Hugh was another, although no longer
dancing.
Bob Campbell never came to either New Zealand or Australia, so the dance was
not written in New Zealand.
I remember first learning this dance, with the second and third couples
dancing rights and lefts with setting in bars 17 to 32, whereas in the
Glasgow Assembly book when published the second and third couples cross with
the right hands each time. In my archives I have a typewritten copy of the
dance, source unidentified, in which the second and third couples dance
rights and lefts.
(Hays) Australian Ladies was written on 29th June 1966, but the dance was not
published until 1994, after Alec Hays death, thus it is not as well known.
Bob Campbells was written in May 1967, and was published in 1976. The two
dances are completely different. Hays instructions recommend the Music "Gay
Gordons" by Stan Hamilton and "The Flying Scotsman" in R.C.A. victor R.P.L.
3404. The dance is named for the tune Australian Ladies used in the
recording.
Keith Napier
Sydney Australia
Keith wrote: > I remember first learning this dance, with the second and third couples > dancing rights and lefts with setting in bars 17 to 32, whereas in the > Glasgow Assembly book when published the second and third couples cross with > the right hands each time. In my archives I have a typewritten copy of the > dance, source unidentified, in which the second and third couples dance > rights and lefts. Thank goodness there is some real evidence that the dance has been changed! A few years ago somebody relied on my instructions, which involved "Rights and Lefts", only to be confused when everyone insisted on giving right hand. Of course when I checked with the published instructions I thought I had just made another mistake. Since the correspondence started I had a look in my first note book, which at one time was one of the few sources I had of dance instructions - (how times have changed!), - back at the time when I learnt the dance in York, during the 60s, I wrote down that it was Rights and Lefts with setting. It just goes to show the problems that are caused by revising dances! Just out of interest, has anyone who is thinking of teaching / dancing Euan's Jig (Book 28) noticed the amendment made in the Manual? (Not that it makes the dance much better!) Malcolm
> Unfortunately, the Australian men in the team seem to have been forgotten. > One of them, Heinz Duewell, was also at the Queensland winter school, still > dancing at 80. Elma See's husband, Hugh was another, although no longer > dancing. > Keith Napier > Sydney Australia Hi, Keith, I took my certificate in '62 at the same London class as Heinz. Our tutor, Frances Stamp, has departed recently but it's nice to know some are still active. He used to come down from Oxford (where I think he was post-grad) with his lederhosen in his bag and a tome of some kind to while away the journey. Happy days.... Cheers, Ron :) < 0 Ron Mackey,(Purveyor of Pat's Party Pieces) 'O> Mottingham, /#\ London. UK. l> xxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> (Hays) Australian Ladies was written on 29th June 1966, but the dance was not > published until 1994, after Alec Hays death, thus it is not as well known. > Bob Campbells was written in May 1967, and was published in 1976. The two > dances are completely different. Hays instructions recommend the Music "Gay > Gordons" by Stan Hamilton and "The Flying Scotsman" in R.C.A. victor R.P.L. > 3404. The dance is named for the tune Australian Ladies used in the > recording. > > Keith Napier > Sydney Australia Interesting that Alec Hay's dance, the less familiar of the two, was actually written first (by a matter of months) and was probably not known to Bob Campbell. I wonder who the original "Australian Ladies" in William Fergusson's pipe march were. Does anyone have information on Fergusson? His work was still in copyright when "Glasgow Assembly" was published, as Bob Campbell acknowledges the permission of Fergusson's estate to reprint the tune. Rosemary Coupe Vancouver