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Celtic Reels
Emily Gerrie
Feb. 3, 2006, 6:05 a.m. (Message 44068)
Hi everyone, I'm interested in teaching celtic reels in the coming weeks, but I haven't been too successful in finding dances with them. I know of 'The Celtic Reel' by Barry Skelton in his Celtic book (which may have been their first appearance, though I'm not too sure of that) but I don't have the original instructions. Does anyone know of others (and where I might be able to find them)? Thanks, Emily Gerrie (Ottawa)
On 03/02/2006 06:05, Emily Gerrie wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm interested in teaching celtic reels in the coming weeks, but I > haven't been too successful in finding dances with them. I know of 'The > Celtic Reel' by Barry Skelton in his Celtic book (which may have been > their first appearance, though I'm not too sure of that) but I don't > have the original instructions. Does anyone know of others (and where I > might be able to find them)? > > Thanks, > Emily Gerrie Try using DanceData. There you will discover: Bonavista by Georgina Finlay (instructions sent privately) Ceiltich Crois by Duncan Keppie The Celtic Line by Eddy West homepages.igrin.co.nz/scotdance/Celticl.html Celtic Square by Brian Charlton (Hi Brian) Celtic Wedding by Eddy West Vice Versa by Eddy West http://homepages.igrin.co.nz/scotdance/vicevers.html Interestingly, I don't have Barry Skelton's dance with this formation. Can anyone help ME out with the instructions? Alan
Contact Fiona Mackie at the RSCDS Dundee Branch who had devised a lovely wee dance for Jim Healy which included Celtic Reels. xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx www.rscds-dundee.org.uk There is a book of dances plus a CD with original music by Luke Brady available with the Celtic Reel included. George Watt. 4 Ancrum Drive, Dundee. DD2 2JB Scotland. tel. 01382 642131
On 03/02/2006 10:33, George Watt wrote: > Contact Fiona Mackie at the RSCDS Dundee Branch who had devised a lovely > wee dance for Jim Healy which included Celtic Reels. > > xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > > www.rscds-dundee.org.uk > > There is a book of dances plus a CD with original music by Luke Brady > available with the Celtic Reel included. I could use the info on this? Anyone willing/able to help out? Alan
I wasn't aware that this is a standard name for a formation, but I assume it refers to the reels in Barry Skelton's Dance "Celtic Reel." It's a reel of 4 where the axis rotates 1/4 every two bars (not to be confused with the reels in Belhaven, which also rotate, but in a different way). I don't believe I've encountered this formation in any other dance so far. It is kind of the signature figure of the dance Celtic Reel (it takes 16 bars, so it is half the dance), so putting it in another dance would be kind of pointless, unless maybe it were a longer dance or medley. It would be kind of like taking the rights and lefts figure in Trip to Bavaria (I call that one "four couple rights and lefts) and putting that into another dance. To a large degree, the formation *is* the dance. Lara Friedman-Shedlov Minneapolis, Minnesota ******************************** Lara Friedman~Shedlov "Librarians -- Like Google, but xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx warm-blooded" ********************************
I think Alan Paterson mentioned Georgina Findlay's "Bona Vista" a 4 couple dance with Celtic reels danced by 1s & 2s and 3s & 4s. It was given to us here in Cairns, and was very popular in North Queensland for a couple of years - certainly has more to it than Barry Skelton's original dance Anne Archdeacon Cairns, Australia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.15.1/250 - Release Date: 3/02/2006
Emily Gerrie wrote: > I'm interested in teaching celtic reels in the coming weeks, but I haven't > been too successful in finding dances with them. So far I haven't heard of a formation called »Celtic reels«. Can anyone summarise briefly what these look like? Anselm -- Anselm Lingnau, Frankfurt, Germany ..................... xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx How would a car function if it were designed like a computer? Occasionally, executing a maneuver would cause your car to stop and fail and you would have to re-install the engine, and the airbag system would say, »Are you sure?« before going off. -- Katie Hafner
Anselm asked: > So far I haven't heard of a formation called >Celtic reels<. Can anyone > summarise briefly what these look like? To which Christine replied: > Private reply sent Why? I'd really like to know what these are, too, and I'm sure that goes for many others on the list. Private replies are appropriate where complete copyrighted dances are being sent, or where someone else's personal information is being sent, but I think in this case sending a public reply is FAR more appropriate. Cheers, Ian Brockbank Edinburgh, Scotland xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.scottishdance.net/
Ian Brockbank ha scritto: >Anselm asked: > > > >>So far I haven't heard of a formation called >Celtic reels<. Can anyone >>summarise briefly what these look like? >> >> > >To which Christine replied: > > > >>Private reply sent >> >> > >Why? I'd really like to know what these are, too, and I'm sure that goes >for many others on the list. Private replies are appropriate where complete >copyrighted dances are being sent, or where someone else's personal >information is being sent, but I think in this case sending a public reply >is FAR more appropriate. > >Cheers, > >Ian Brockbank >Edinburgh, Scotland >xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx >http://www.scottishdance.net/ > > > There you have it (I had sent a private reply as well in order not to spam the list:=): Celtic reels, In a line of four across the dance, 2s on the outside, 1's in the middle 2M- --1L 1M- -2L Pass RS with the person opposite, dance round each other LS in the centre or dance on one place on the outside in a clockwise fashion. Facing up and down the dance, pass RS, dance round left in the centre or one place on outside. Continue reeling in this way until back in the starting position (16 bars). Hope this helps (although the instructions do sound rather cryptic:) Andrea (fae Dundee)
mj.sheffield ha scritto: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Re" > >> Celtic reels, >> >> In a line of four across the dance, 2s on the outside, 1's in the middle >> 2M- --1L 1M- -2L > > > Should I conclude that there are in fact more than 4 people involved > here? > > Martin > > > No, only four people take part in the reel, the line is across the set, then it is in the middle of the set, then across again, middle and you finish where you started. I doubt this makes any sense at all..... the figure is actually quite easy, all you have to do is to count 1-2 and remember to go in the right direction:=) Andrea (fae Dundee)
mj.sheffield ha scritto: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Re" > >> Celtic reels, >> >> In a line of four across the dance, 2s on the outside, 1's in the middle >> 2M- --1L 1M- -2L > > > Should I conclude that there are in fact more than 4 people involved > here? > > Martin > > > No, only four people take part in the reel, the line is across the set, then it is in the middle of the set, then across again, middle and you finish where you started. I doubt this makes any sense at all..... the figure is actually quite easy, all you have to do is to count 1-2 and remember to go in the right direction:=) Andrea (fae Dundee)
Hi Andrea, Thanks for the explanation. It sounds very like a figure in one of the dances submitted for the New Scotland 50th Anniversary book (I can't remember the name, it didn't make the cut on the dance-throughs, but I remember a whole lot of us getting confused by these rotating reels). > There you have it (I had sent a private reply as well in order not to > spam the list:=): This isn't spam - it's absolutely core list subject matter IMO. It's certainly far more on-topic than a lot of the email we've had in the last couple of weeks. Cheers, Ian Brockbank Edinburgh, Scotland xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.scottishdance.net/
> > Thanks for the explanation. It sounds very like a figure in one of the > dances submitted for the New Scotland 50th Anniversary book (I can't > remember the name, it didn't make the cut on the dance-throughs, but I > remember a whole lot of us getting confused by these rotating reels). > Ian Brockbank Are these reels the same or similar to the ones Hugh Foss tried in Belhaven? I seem to remember him playing that sort of game but I can't get to my copy at the moment - it's buried somewhere fairly nearby but ... ! :~) He certainly did a reel of four where one entered from a circle and back out again and thought he made it rotate in another variation which would be something similar. Wish we could try some of them again.
No the "Celtic Reel differs from the rotating reels of 4 in Belhaven - also described in "Roll Back The Carpet". The simplest way to explain this is to say that in a rotating reel of 4, as in a non rotating reel you pass one of the other dancers to go into the centre, another in the centre and then pass the third other person to go out to the other end (or s ide if the reel rotates) while in the "Celtic Reel" you pass the same person going out as you passed going in. This is because in a rotating Reel of 4 you only go round the person in the centre 1/4 turn while in the "Celtic Reel" you go 3/4. A revolving reel of takes 8 bars to complete while the Celtic Reel takes 16. Barry Skelton has written two dances with revolving reels of 4 both as Ceilidh items, one "The Caber" is published in "The Kiwi Book", the other involving a double revolving reel was interesting but not something to dance often. Eddy West
> Barry Skelton has written two dances with revolving reels of 4 both as > Ceilidh items, one "The Caber" is published in "The Kiwi Book", the other > involving a double revolving reel was interesting but not something to dance > often. > > Eddy West Thanks, Eddy I'll look it up when I've cleared a path ... !
> Further to my last wordy comment I can only check against Barry's "The Caber" and in that dance after 8 bars you have daced half a reel 4 with partners in promenade hold (Reel Time). You are however in original positions as the reel has rotated half a turn. > > Eddy West Durr - Yeah - ?? :)) Regards, Ron