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Kilts in Scotland (was Scottish Country Dancing VS Scottish Folk Dancing)

Jim Healy

Jim Healy

Jan. 31, 2006, 9:12 a.m. (Message 43980)

Richard,

I suspect your comments are more representative of the position twenty years 
ago but the kilt is very much alive and well in Scotland today. For example, 
the other week I was in the supermarket in Perth and all three oft he men 
shopping in one aisle were wearing the kilt - the fact that it was the booze 
aisle was mere happenstance :)

Jim Healy
Monaco
Anselm Lingnau

Anselm Lingnau

Jan. 31, 2006, 10:30 a.m. (Message 43984, in reply to message 43980)

Jim Healy wrote:

> For example, the other week I was in the supermarket in Perth and all three
> of the men shopping in one aisle were wearing the kilt - the fact that it
> was the booze aisle was mere happenstance :)

Would that be including your dashing self?

Anselm
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Richard Goss

Richard Goss

Jan. 31, 2006, 8:34 p.m. (Message 43998, in reply to message 43980)

Not quite 20 years ago, was there two summers ago at St Andrews, and
at least a weekend twice a year on family business. While I would
agree that Perth would be a likely place to have seen this, it is just
possible that if you went back to the same store you would have seen
none. For the same reasons probably, one is more likely to see
national dress here in a small town or village instead of Palma.
   
  In either case, it is a matter of dimension, the typical Scottish
  male of today must rent a kilt for a wedding or social event (not
  counting SC or H dancing), this makes it a folk costume and not
  clothes.
   
  BTW, a few years back, I got attacked for the same logic, when I was
  attending an Indian powwow in southern California (none of the
  tribes represented were of California, and Souix were the majority).
  I was told that these were not costume, but native dress. To which I
  asked how many were in attendance compared to all the indians of his
  tribe in Southern California, answer about 1%. To which I suggested
  that if the majority of the other 99% did not own "native dress" or
  wear it in the course of one´s daly life, then it was a costume
  (easier for Amerinds, because, unlike the Scots, the women´s costume
  is more commonly seen than the mens).
   
  The local, Malloruí, equivalent of being Scottish by wearing a bit
  of tratan, is found here with neckerchiefs (boy scout type of
  triangle, with no slide). On some feasts even the priest and altar
  boys wear them during mass, choirs commonly use them as the only
  uniform part of their uniform, as do teams and fans. They are almost
  the equivalent of fan t-shirts in the U.S. Besides around the neck,
  they are used as belts, arm and leg bands, and while girls wear them
  on their head as any scarf, men often wear them as an accessory to
  our local costume (sort of Pirates-of-the-Carribean), for men,
  except the foot wear for dancing groups are two tone brown and white
  golf shoes (socks are such an option here, that at an important
  mass, one can identify the bishop because he is the one with black
  shoes and socks, all the others look like Franciscans..
seonaid.gent

seonaid.gent

Feb. 2, 2006, 11:40 p.m. (Message 44060, in reply to message 43998)

At my wedding (18 months ago in Scotland) there were somewhere in the
region of 100 males present at the evening reception.  Of these, I
would say at least 80 of them were in kilts.  Out of these 80, less
than 5 had hired their kilt for the evening. (And before you ask, less
than half of them were dancers).
   
  I know a number of men who wear a kilt rather than a suit to any
  formal occasion (in fact, a number of them don't own a suit).

  While it might not be as common as wearing trousers, it is certainly
  not an unusual occurrence to see people doing every day activities
  in their kilts around my area of Scotland.
   
  Seonaid
  Markinch, Fife

		
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