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    Oberdan Otto Sept. 27, 2001, 7:50 a.m. (Message 27545)

    >...the same sort of question for Miss G's Strathspey:
    >I would like to know what folks think about "staying in the middle" as the
    >1st Cpl finishes corner-partner turns before dancing three-hands-across with
    >the supporting couples.  I find it satisfying to finish the left-hand turn
    >with my partner at the set lines and then surge forward toward the 2d cpl
    >for the hands across figure; staying in the center defeats this, to my mind.
    >
    >I should add here that I don't have the original/official instructions for
    >this dance; the cheat sheet for Ramblewood specified doing in that way.
    >
    >Pat
    
    I also don't have the instructions available, but my recollection is 
    that the "ending next to your partner in the middle" ready for the 
    right hands across is how the dance is written.
    
    However, the question is WHEN do you actually reach that position? 
    The way I phrase it, I do not reach that position until the downbeat 
    of the next phrase as I urge into the right hands across. If it is 
    phrased that way, then the difference between THAT and "at the set 
    lines and then surge forward" is very small. My focus though is not 
    on ending the turn on the sidelines but on beginning the hands across 
    with all three dancers balanced. To my way of thinking, that is 
    arriving there just in time and NOT early. If I arrived early, I 
    would be pushing my first corner into the figure and leaving the 
    other person far behind, because I have been in motion while they 
    have not. The idea is to arrive at the starting position picking up 
    the other dancers for the formation rather than pushing them into it.
    
    This fits my personal phrasing guideline of (when possible) adjusting 
    the ending of one formation to make a seamless flow into the 
    beginning of the next formation.
    
    Oberdan.
    
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    mlbrown Sept. 27, 2001, 1:19 p.m. (Message 27552, in reply to message 27545)

    Pat wrote:
    
    
     >...the same sort of question for Miss G's Strathspey:
    >I would like to know what folks think about "staying in the middle" as the
    >1st Cpl finishes corner-partner turns before dancing three-hands-across
    with
    >the supporting couples.  I find it satisfying to finish the left-hand turn
    >with my partner at the set lines and then surge forward toward the 2d cpl
    >for the hands across figure; staying in the center defeats this, to my
    mind.
    >
    >I should add here that I don't have the original/official instructions for
    >this dance; the cheat sheet for Ramblewood specified doing in that way.
    
    Well the printed instructions, both in the original leaflet and in the
    Pocket edition, state:
    
    "...... and partner with the left hands, finishing ready for,
    
    Right hands across, ...... "
    
    They also state that
    "..... 1st couple pass right shoulders into -
     Left hands across, ......"
    
    This is generally taken to mean, (and I think Derek has been reported as
    saying), both the right hands across and the left hands across start with
    the dancing couple in the middle of the set. (i.e. he deliberately wanted it
    to be different from "The Cuillins of Skye")
    
    What I find slightly harder to be clear on is where the supporting couples
    finish the right hand wheel - If it was four hands across and back, then the
    dancing couples would stay in the middle to change hands, but "teapots" in
    strathspey time gives plenty of time to dance out to the sides (unlike D & D
    of E), it balances the start of the right hand wheel, and the instructions
    are printed as bars 25 - 28, 29-32. Perhaps it all depends on the width of
    the set?
    
    The deviser also often dances the first 16 bars from 3rd place to get to the
    bottom, which is fine as long as it doesn't throw the new top couple, and
    the bottom couple can cope with dancing the knot and then into "Turn corner,
    partner"
    
    Malcolm

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