Brian Charlton Feb. 3, 2006, 1:41 a.m. (Message 44064)
Re: Eccles Rant - No Answers?
Dear Chris, No replies? I couldn't let no-one make comment (but now I see Martin Sheffield has). Remember that the 18th Century Book was produced (I understand) by the 'opposition' of the Society - Jack McConachie was not connected to the RSCDS, so his interpretations of the Young Manuscript tend to be different to what the RSCDS might have produced. My personal preference would be to complete the 'petronella' tunr as described, i.e facing your partner. There is plenty of time to cast as it is a strathspey. I would suggest that the stepping-up would be McConachie's preference and not mentioned in the original MS. The diagram in the book shows that the 1st couple retain nearer hands before the circle. Note that the tune is given as "Eccles' Rant", so maybe it was named for a person named Eccles, though it would be well before Spike Milligan was born! I don't think anyone will be worried how you interpret the dance. If I were teaching it, I would stick closely to the description in the book, then I have the fall-back to queries "it's in the book". Brian Charlton, Sydney, Australia. On 2/2/06, email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > > Dear Strathspey list, > > I've not received even one reply - on or off list - to my queries (below) > about this dance. I think this may be a first for the strathspey list, > which > usually delivers an almost instantaneous reply on just about > anything. Does > it mean that no-one has done this dance for a long time, if ever? I > assume > it must have been somewhat popular at some time, for it can be found in > the > Wee Green Book. Or would that be a rash assumption? > > I'm going to try the dance anyway... and I'm quite expecting to find out > why > no-one has done it for a long time! > > Chris, New York. > > > "I've been reading the instructions for Eccles' Rant in the 18th Century > Book, and am planning to teach it soon. I wonder if there's anyone out > there who > knows the dance and could answer a few questions. > > 1. Would you face out on bar 8 (ready to cast), or would you complete > the > Petronella turn, and then begin to cast on bar 9? > 2. The instructions specify that second couple move up on bars 11 to 12. > But, if the aim is to be helpful to first couple, they should > rather step > up on > bars 9 to 10 while first couple are casting to second place. Any > comments > on that? > 3. As first couple, would you retain nearer hands on bar 16, ready > for the > circle with the second couple. (It would seem a bit unnatural to break > hands > only to rejoin a moment later.) > 4. Can anyone comment on the origin of the name, which is also the name > of > the lead tune, besides the fact that Eccles is a town near Manchester, > best > known for its Eccles cakes." > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://strathspey.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/strathspey > > > _______________________________________________ http://strathspey.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/strathspey