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  • Ian McHaffie

    Ian McHaffie Oct. 10, 2001, 2:01 p.m. (Message 27838)

    Re: Request for written instructions for Australian Ladies

    Rosemary: I looked at the printing history on my edition of Glasgow 
    Assembly: -- 5th printing, 1990 -- and, who knows, there may have 
    been others since! This must make it one of the most popular books 
    other than the RSCDS publications, some of the eariest of which must 
    have been through multiple printings and editions by now.
    In looking through the Glasgow Assembly book again, I made two 
    interesting discoveries.
    Firstly, there is a note about Australian Ladies, which I hadn't 
    noticed before,  -- thanking Iain Boyd for the changes in bars 23 & 
    24 and bars 31 & 32 -- and also for a change in bar 8. I wonder what 
    change that was?? Perhaps the previous version had the dancers finish 
    the four hands across on the sidelines and then dance in for the lead 
    up. The dance was devised in 1967 for four Australian Ladies. Is any 
    one of them a Strathspey subscriber? Perhaps one of them recalls the 
    occasion and the changes.
    My second observation was how clearly all the dances are described. 
    Bob's descriptions seem to set a standard for how to describe a dance 
    for someone who hasn't seen it danced. I have sometimes tried to work 
    my way through an unfamiliar dance from the written instructions, 
    only to find out that I didn't really know at the end what the 
    devisor had in mind.  Bob's clarity often needs more words than there 
    is room for on a "crib". --- Which relates to a previous thread. 
    Should a crib teach the dance precisely from scratch to someone who 
    has never heard of it? Or should it serve to remind a reasonably 
    experienced dancer of the main figures?
    Ian McHaffie
    >My memory accords with yours, Ian. I first learned Bob Campbell's Australian
    >Ladies in Hobart, Tasmania, in 1984. At that time I was given a photocopy of
    >a closely typed page of instructions, on which the original "change places
    >giving the left hand" for bars 23-24 and 31-32 had been crossed out and
    >replaced by "change places giving the right hand." That would, of course,
    >have been some years after the publication of the dance in its present form
    >in Glasgow Assembly, but does indicate the way the dance evolved.
    >Incidentally, my copy of Glasgow Assembly gives an unusual printing history:
    >it was first published "in part" in 1970 (with or without Australian
    >Ladies?), and the "first full printing" took place in 1976. The
    >TAC-sponsored reprint was in 1982.
    >Rosemary Coupe
    >----- Original Message -----
    >From: "Ian McHaffie" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
    >To: <>
    >Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 5:08 AM
    >Subject: Re: Request for written instructions for Australian Ladies
    >>  A comment (and question) on Australian Ladies  .
    >>  The following is partly from memory.
    >>  In addition to the two completely different versions of Australian
    >>  Ladies -- one a 4-couple dance (Hay) and  one a 3-couple dance
    >>  (Campbell) -- I recall another set of instructions for the better
    >>  known (at least around Toronto) Bob Campbell version.
    >>  The first version I saw -- in typescript on a single page -- had
    >>  different instructions for the corners in bars 17 - 32.  While the
    >>  dancing couple were doing their "cross and cast to the right" four
    >>  times,  the corners followed the same track as they do in the final
    >>  version, but with changes of hands. That is, the corners' figure was
    >>  "rights and lefts", with two bars of setting between each travelling
    >>  movement. By the time the dance reached formal publication, the
    >>  handing was changed to right hands for all the changes by the corners.
    >>  Does anyone else recall this change? Or have I got the Hay version
    >>  (which I have not got) confused with the Campbell version?
    >  >
    >  > Ian McHaffie
    >  > xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx
    >  >

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