Sept. 18, 2001, 6:27 p.m. (Message 27412, in reply to message 27407)
To reply to the 2 points that Jan has made: 1) She, and probably the majority of the members do not want the book or the bulletin - but at least they do get something for the money, and the total costs, including the postage are not much of the Society's budget. And we are not talking about not producing the book and the bulletin, merely producing a smaller number, with a corresponding increase per unit - say 2,000 books sent to 2,000 individual addresses, rather than 15 - 20,000 sent to a few hundred addresses (say 1,500 because of the HQ members?) Anyway it is not a case of getting bogged down in details of costing, but it is a case of putting together a financial model and seeing how robust it is. Annual members who pay their subs and receive two items they don't necessarily want are I believe one thing ( and something which I can sell to my branch members every year) - paying their subs and just getting a piece of cardboard are something entirely different. What are the consequences if we lose 50% of our annual members? 2) One of the major costs for the Society is the cost of the Exec Council meetings - we hold 2 a year with over a hundred people present at each meeting - most of the time it rubber stamps the decisions made by sub-committees, and the time is spent in trying to find out why the committees have made certain decisions, and then arguing about them - it is a cross between a debate and a law court (with the conveners of the committees feeling like the accused!) The majority of the people attending say nothing, and those who do speak often wonder whether they are wasting their time. The Society does not pay the first £20 of expenses, but with some people having to stay overnight, and people travelling from the South of England, some of the costs for individuals are significant. With a much smaller group of representatives meeting the costs for such meetings would be reduced - the costs / time for those attending locally based area meetings would be much less (even from York it is an all day job, whereas if the meetings were held in Leeds I could be there and back in an evening) - with smaller groups attending each meeting more people would be encouraged to speak (I think with area meetings the average attendance would be between 10 and 20) - In summary a) the costs would be genuinely reduced, b) the cost to the Society would be reduced, and c) people would be much more actively involved. Malcolm (It would also be more democratic, in that at present the large branches with hundreds of members have one voice on the Exec, as do those branches with 30 or 40 members, but we don't want to bring politics into the argument!)