strathspey Archive: =?UTF-8?Q?Peter_Hastings=E2=80=99_Chocolate_Mouse_?=

We had fun yesterdas trying this dance but...
 
Can anybody give a hint how to survive bar 25?
We started the half grand Chain with 4s &3s cross RH while 2s+1s change places -
just as we "finish" on bar 29/30
Otherwise you are not on the correct side or order.
But coming out of the Hands across, 1st and 2nd lady just head into the wrong
direction and to change direction is - not that easy at that moment...
So do we have something wrong? or is it just as we did it an the "natural
breakdownpoint"?
 
(I wouldn't mind an original description ;-))
 
 
PETER HASTINGS’ CHOCOLATE MOUSE  (J4x32)  4C set
                                          R Milne+Celtic Society
 1- 8         1s cast 1 place while 2s dance up, 2s cast while 1s dance up & 1s
turn 2H (4 bars)
 9-12        1s+2s circle 4H round to left 1/2 way, 2s+1s+3s circle 6H round to
left 1/2 way while 4s cross 2H
13-16       3s+1s+2s+4s circle 8H round to left 1/2 way
17-24       4s+2s dance RH across while 1s+3s dance LH across once round then
all change wheels starting with 2M+1M to end 3(1)(2)4
25-32       All dance 1/2 Grand Chain, 4s & 3s cross RH while 2s+1s change
places on sides RH & all set.  4 1 2 3

 
Greetings,
Anja
 
 
--
Anja Breest
Cologne, Germany

Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
http://www.rscds-cologne.de

Mail:
Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
Privat: anja.breest@girards.de

And the mousse itself is to die for!!!

Pia

-----Original Message-----
From: Anja Breest - Strathspey [mailto:strathspey@rscds-cologne.de]
Sent: 29 September 2011 15:03
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Subject: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse

We had fun yesterdas trying this dance but...

Can anybody give a hint how to survive bar 25?
We started the half grand Chain with 4s &3s cross RH while 2s+1s change places - just as we "finish" on bar 29/30 Otherwise you are not on the correct side or order.
But coming out of the Hands across, 1st and 2nd lady just head into the wrong direction and to change direction is - not that easy at that moment...
So do we have something wrong? or is it just as we did it an the "natural breakdownpoint"?

(I wouldn't mind an original description ;-))

PETER HASTINGS CHOCOLATE MOUSE (J4x32) 4C set R Milne+Celtic Society
1- 8 1s cast 1 place while 2s dance up, 2s cast while 1s dance up & 1s turn 2H (4 bars)
9-12 1s+2s circle 4H round to left 1/2 way, 2s+1s+3s circle 6H round to left 1/2 way while 4s cross 2H
13-16 3s+1s+2s+4s circle 8H round to left 1/2 way
17-24 4s+2s dance RH across while 1s+3s dance LH across once round then all change wheels starting with 2M+1M to end 3(1)(2)4
25-32 All dance 1/2 Grand Chain, 4s & 3s cross RH while 2s+1s change places on sides RH & all set. 4 1 2 3

Greetings,
Anja

--
Anja Breest
Cologne, Germany

Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
http://www.rscds-cologne.de

Mail:
Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
Privat: anja.breest@girards.de

Pia wrote:

> And the mousse itself is to die for!!!

Are we talking desserts or small furry animals?

Anselm
--
Anselm Lingnau, Mainz/Mayence, Germany ................. anselm@strathspey.org
I never cease being dumbfounded by the unbelievable things people believe.
-- Leo Rosten

>> And the mousse itself is to die for!!!
> Are we talking desserts or small furry animals?

yack! fur in chocolate...

So, what is the official title of the dance? mousse or mouse?

;)
Heiko

Mousse - I don't know if Peter is lurking, but he used to make mousse to
take to St Andrews for their varsity dances - and once dropped off a bowl
all for me on his way there.

Pia

-----Original Message-----
From: Heiko Schmidt [mailto:heiko.schmidt@univie.ac.at]
Sent: 29 September 2011 15:50
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Subject: Re: Peter Hastings' Chocolate Mouse

>> And the mousse itself is to die for!!!
> Are we talking desserts or small furry animals?

yack! fur in chocolate...

So, what is the official title of the dance? mousse or mouse?

;)
Heiko

Either works, as far as SCD is concerned, but we should heed Burns's comment on life in general -- also applicable to dancing:

But Mousie, thou are no thy-lane,
In proving foresight may be vain:
The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men,
Gang aft agley,
An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
For promis'd joy! 

Mike Briggs
 
1519 Storytown Road
Oregon WI 53575-2521 USA
+1 608 835 0914 (o)
+1 608 770 2304 (m)
+1 608 237 2379 (f)

________________________________
From: Anselm Lingnau <anselm@strathspey.org>
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse

Pia wrote:

> And the mousse itself is to die for!!!

Are we talking desserts or small furry animals?

Anselm
--
Anselm Lingnau, Mainz/Mayence, Germany ................. anselm@strathspey.org
I never cease being dumbfounded by the unbelievable things people believe.
                                                                -- Leo Rosten

Brown stuff in a bowl - yummy

Pia

-----Original Message-----
From: Anselm Lingnau [mailto:anselm@strathspey.org]
Sent: 29 September 2011 15:39
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Subject: Re: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse

Pia wrote:

> And the mousse itself is to die for!!!

Are we talking desserts or small furry animals?

Anselm
--
Anselm Lingnau, Mainz/Mayence, Germany ................. anselm@strathspey.org I never cease being dumbfounded by the unbelievable things people believe.
-- Leo Rosten

Not with mice in it though!

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Pia <pia@intamail.com> wrote:

> Brown stuff in a bowl - yummy
>
> Pia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anselm Lingnau [mailto:anselm@strathspey.org]
> Sent: 29 September 2011 15:39
> To: strathspey@strathspey.org
> Subject: Re: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse
>
> Pia wrote:
>
> > And the mousse itself is to die for!!!
>
> Are we talking desserts or small furry animals?
>
> Anselm
> --
> Anselm Lingnau, Mainz/Mayence, Germany .................
> anselm@strathspey.org I never cease being dumbfounded by the unbelievable
> things people believe.
> -- Leo
> Rosten
>
>

--
Denise Smith
76 Celandine St
Shailer Park Qld 4128
+617 3209 7006
pauldenise3@bigpond.com

Peter sent me the description - it is mousse -definitly ;-) 
That seems to be a typo in the cribs...
 
Greetings,
Anja

Anselm Lingnau <anselm@strathspey.org> hat am 29. September 2011 um 16:39
geschrieben:

> Pia wrote:
>
> > And the mousse itself is to die for!!!
>
> Are we talking desserts or small furry animals?
>
> Anselm
 
 
--
Anja Breest
Cologne, Germany

Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
http://www.rscds-cologne.de

Mail:
Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
Privat: anja.breest@girards.de

Did he send you the recipe?

Pia

-----Original Message-----
From: Anja Breest - Strathspey [mailto:strathspey@rscds-cologne.de]
Sent: 30 September 2011 15:40
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Cc: minicrib@care4free.net
Subject: Re: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse

Peter sent me the description - it is mousse -definitly ;-) That seems to be a typo in the cribs...

Greetings,
Anja

Anselm Lingnau <anselm@strathspey.org> hat am 29. September 2011 um 16:39
geschrieben:

> Pia wrote:
>
> > And the mousse itself is to die for!!!
>
> Are we talking desserts or small furry animals?
>
> Anselm

--
Anja Breest
Cologne, Germany

Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
http://www.rscds-cologne.de

Mail:
Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
Privat: anja.breest@girards.de

Yes ;-) And I could't finde a mouse in the mousse...
 
Greetings,
Anja

Pia <pia@intamail.com> hat am 30. September 2011 um 17:02 geschrieben:

> Did he send you the recipe?
>
> Pia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anja Breest - Strathspey [mailto:strathspey@rscds-cologne.de]
> Sent: 30 September 2011 15:40
> To: strathspey@strathspey.org
> Cc: minicrib@care4free.net
> Subject: Re: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse
>
> Peter sent me the description - it is mousse -definitly ;-) That seems to be a
> typo in the cribs...
>
> Greetings,
> Anja
>
>
> Anselm Lingnau <anselm@strathspey.org> hat am 29. September 2011 um 16:39
> geschrieben:
>
> > Pia wrote:
> >
> > > And the mousse itself is to die for!!!
> >
> > Are we talking desserts or small furry animals?
> >
> > Anselm
>
>
> --
> Anja Breest
> Cologne, Germany
>
> Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
> http://www.rscds-cologne.de
>
>
> Mail:
> Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
> Privat: anja.breest@girards.de
>
--
Ball Cologne 24.09.2011: A Year and A Day
Mail: Ball2011@rscds-cologne.de
Homepage: http://www.rscds-cologne.de
Invitation: http://www.rscds-cologne.de/2011_Ball_Cologne_Invitation.pdf
Minicrib: http://www.rscds-cologne.de/2011_Ball_Cologne_Cribs.pdf

Well it definitely would lack a bit of body then :>)

Pia

-----Original Message-----
From: Anja Breest - Strathspey [mailto:strathspey@rscds-cologne.de]
Sent: 30 September 2011 16:08
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Subject: RE: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mo use

Yes ;-) And I could't finde a mouse in the mousse...

Greetings,
Anja

Pia <pia@intamail.com> hat am 30. September 2011 um 17:02 geschrieben:

> Did he send you the recipe?
>
> Pia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anja Breest - Strathspey [mailto:strathspey@rscds-cologne.de]
> Sent: 30 September 2011 15:40
> To: strathspey@strathspey.org
> Cc: minicrib@care4free.net
> Subject: Re: Peter Hastings Chocolate Mouse
>
> Peter sent me the description - it is mousse -definitly ;-) That seems
> to be a typo in the cribs...
>
> Greetings,
> Anja
>
>
> Anselm Lingnau <anselm@strathspey.org> hat am 29. September 2011 um
> 16:39
> geschrieben:
>
> > Pia wrote:
> >
> > > And the mousse itself is to die for!!!
> >
> > Are we talking desserts or small furry animals?
> >
> > Anselm
>
>
> --
> Anja Breest
> Cologne, Germany
>
> Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
> http://www.rscds-cologne.de
>
>
> Mail:
> Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
> Privat: anja.breest@girards.de
>
--
Ball Cologne 24.09.2011: A Year and A Day
Mail: Ball2011@rscds-cologne.de
Homepage: http://www.rscds-cologne.de
Invitation: http://www.rscds-cologne.de/2011_Ball_Cologne_Invitation.pdf
Minicrib: http://www.rscds-cologne.de/2011_Ball_Cologne_Cribs.pdf

Try it with a pivot turn, similar to the old version of cadgers in the
canongate when entering the 2nd reel on men's side.

Meinhard

Am 29.09.2011 16:03, schrieb Anja Breest - Strathspey:
> We had fun yesterdas trying this dance but...
>
> Can anybody give a hint how to survive bar 25?
> We started the half grand Chain with 4s&3s cross RH while 2s+1s change places -
> just as we "finish" on bar 29/30
> Otherwise you are not on the correct side or order.
> But coming out of the Hands across, 1st and 2nd lady just head into the wrong
> direction and to change direction is - not that easy at that moment...
> So do we have something wrong? or is it just as we did it an the "natural
> breakdownpoint"?
>
> (I wouldn't mind an original description ;-))
>
>
> PETER HASTINGS’ CHOCOLATE MOUSE (J4x32) 4C set
> R Milne+Celtic Society
> 1- 8 1s cast 1 place while 2s dance up, 2s cast while 1s dance up& 1s
> turn 2H (4 bars)
> 9-12 1s+2s circle 4H round to left 1/2 way, 2s+1s+3s circle 6H round to
> left 1/2 way while 4s cross 2H
> 13-16 3s+1s+2s+4s circle 8H round to left 1/2 way
> 17-24 4s+2s dance RH across while 1s+3s dance LH across once round then
> all change wheels starting with 2M+1M to end 3(1)(2)4
> 25-32 All dance 1/2 Grand Chain, 4s& 3s cross RH while 2s+1s change
> places on sides RH& all set. 4 1 2 3
>
>
> Greetings,
> Anja
>
>
> --
> Anja Breest
> Cologne, Germany
>
> Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
> http://www.rscds-cologne.de
>
>
> Mail:
> Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
> Privat: anja.breest@girards.de
>
>
>

--

Ditzingen, Germany

There are still a lot of we 'oldies' who still dance the 'old' way and really enjoy it!

What ain't broke need not be fixed - unless it is decided to change the reels from 'parallel' to 'symmetrical' reels!

 
Iain Boyd

Postal Address -

P O Box 11-404
Wellington 6142
New Zealand

Can you explain "the old way?" I think I've only seen the new way...

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Iain Boyd <iain_boyd_scd@yahoo.co.nz>wrote:

> There are still a lot of we 'oldies' who still dance the 'old' way and
> really enjoy it!
>
> What ain't broke need not be fixed - unless it is decided to change the
> reels from 'parallel' to 'symmetrical' reels!
>
>
> Iain Boyd
>
>
> Postal Address -
>
> P O Box 11-404
> Wellington 6142
> New Zealand
>

--
Steve Wyrick -- Walnut Creek, California

"Cadgers In The Canongate" - old way -

First couple dance the first reels on opposite side and finish in partner's place.

"Cadgers In The Canongate" - new way -

First couple dance the first reels on opposite sides and finish back in original places.

Regards

 
Iain Boyd

Postal Address -

P O Box 11-404
Wellington 6142
New Zealand

________________________________
From: Steve Wyrick <sjwyrick@gmail.com>
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Sent: Friday, 30 September 2011 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Cadger's reels (was Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse)

Can you explain "the old way?"  I think I've only seen the new way...

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Iain Boyd <iain_boyd_scd@yahoo.co.nz>wrote:

> There are still a lot of we 'oldies' who still dance the 'old' way and
> really enjoy it!
>
> What ain't broke need not be fixed - unless it is decided to change the
> reels from 'parallel' to 'symmetrical' reels!
>
>
> Iain Boyd
>
>
> Postal Address -
>
> P O Box 11-404
> Wellington 6142
> New Zealand
>

--
Steve Wyrick -- Walnut Creek, California

We will try that.
(I think it is mostly a problem with the "reaction time")
 
Greetingsa,
Anja
 

Meinhard Reiser <meinhard.reiser@freenet.de> hat am 29. September 2011 um 16:51
geschrieben:

> Try it with a pivot turn, similar to the old version of cadgers in the
> canongate when entering the 2nd reel on men&apos;s side.
>
> Meinhard
>
>
>
> Am 29.09.2011 16:03, schrieb Anja Breest - Strathspey:
> > We had fun yesterdas trying this dance but...
> >   
> > Can anybody give a hint how to survive bar 25?
> > We started the half grand Chain with 4s&3s cross RH while 2s+1s change
> > places -
> > just as we "finish" on bar 29/30
> > Otherwise you are not on the correct side or order.
> > But coming out of the Hands across, 1st and 2nd lady just head into the
> > wrong
> > direction and to change direction is - not that easy at that moment...
> > So do we have something wrong? or is it just as we did it an the "natural
> > breakdownpoint"?
> >   
> > (I wouldn&apos;t mind an original description ;-))
> >   
> >   
> > PETER HASTINGS’ CHOCOLATE MOUSE  (J4x32)  4C set
> >                                            R Milne+Celtic Society
> >   1- 8         1s cast 1 place while 2s dance up, 2s cast while 1s dance
> >up&  1s
> > turn 2H (4 bars)
> >   9-12        1s+2s circle 4H round to left 1/2 way, 2s+1s+3s circle 6H
> >round to
> > left 1/2 way while 4s cross 2H
> > 13-16       3s+1s+2s+4s circle 8H round to left 1/2 way
> > 17-24       4s+2s dance RH across while 1s+3s dance LH across once round
> > then
> > all change wheels starting with 2M+1M to end 3(1)(2)4
> > 25-32       All dance 1/2 Grand Chain, 4s&  3s cross RH while 2s+1s change
> > places on sides RH&  all set.  4 1 2 3
> >
> >   
> > Greetings,
> > Anja
> >   
> >   
> > --
> > Anja Breest
> > Cologne, Germany
> >
> > Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
> > http://www.rscds-cologne.de
> >
> >
> > Mail:
> > Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
> > Privat: anja.breest@girards.de
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Ditzingen, Germany
>
>
--
Ball Cologne 24.09.2011: A Year and A Day
Mail: Ball2011@rscds-cologne.de
Homepage: http://www.rscds-cologne.de
Invitation: http://www.rscds-cologne.de/2011_Ball_Cologne_Invitation.pdf
Minicrib: http://www.rscds-cologne.de/2011_Ball_Cologne_Cribs.pdf

We haven't tried this yet but in bars 5-8 (for 1s) and 11-12 (for 4s) where they turn/cross 2H does that mean that they do a 2-handed turn PDB? That seems to spoil the transition to/from the circles.  It looks as though it would work better in Strathspey but we shall see...
 
-----
Andrew Buxton
Lewes, East Sussex, UK

________________________________
From: Anja Breest - Strathspey <strathspey@rscds-cologne.de>
To: "strathspey@strathspey.org" <strathspey@strathspey.org>
Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2011, 15:03
Subject: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse

We had fun yesterdas trying this dance but...
 
Can anybody give a hint how to survive bar 25?
We started the half grand Chain with 4s &3s cross RH while 2s+1s change places -
just as we "finish" on bar 29/30
Otherwise you are not on the correct side or order.
But coming out of the Hands across, 1st and 2nd lady just head into the wrong
direction and to change direction is - not that easy at that moment...
So do we have something wrong? or is it just as we did it an the "natural
breakdownpoint"?
 
(I wouldn't mind an original description ;-))
 
 
PETER HASTINGS’ CHOCOLATE MOUSE  (J4x32)  4C set
                                          R Milne+Celtic Society
 1- 8         1s cast 1 place while 2s dance up, 2s cast while 1s dance up & 1s
turn 2H (4 bars)
 9-12        1s+2s circle 4H round to left 1/2 way, 2s+1s+3s circle 6H round to
left 1/2 way while 4s cross 2H
13-16       3s+1s+2s+4s circle 8H round to left 1/2 way
17-24       4s+2s dance RH across while 1s+3s dance LH across once round then
all change wheels starting with 2M+1M to end 3(1)(2)4
25-32       All dance 1/2 Grand Chain, 4s & 3s cross RH while 2s+1s change
places on sides RH & all set.  4 1 2 3

 
Greetings,
Anja
 
 
--
Anja Breest
Cologne, Germany

Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
http://www.rscds-cologne.de

Mail:
Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
Privat: anja.breest@girards.de

If possible, it would be good to have a public reply rather than a private one to Anja's original question too - I'm sure I'm not the only one intrigued to know the solution.

Jan Rudge

Beaconsfield, UK

----------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:29:55 +0100
> From: andrew.buxton@yahoo.co.uk
> Subject: Re: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse
> To: strathspey@strathspey.org
>
> We haven't tried this yet but in bars 5-8 (for 1s) and 11-12 (for 4s) where they turn/cross 2H does that mean that they do a 2-handed turn PDB? That seems to spoil the transition to/from the circles. It looks as though it would work better in Strathspey but we shall see...
>
> -----
> Andrew Buxton
> Lewes, East Sussex, UK
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Anja Breest - Strathspey <strathspey@rscds-cologne.de>
> To: "strathspey@strathspey.org" <strathspey@strathspey.org>
> Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2011, 15:03
> Subject: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse
>
> We had fun yesterdas trying this dance but...
>
> Can anybody give a hint how to survive bar 25?
> We started the half grand Chain with 4s &3s cross RH while 2s+1s change places -
> just as we "finish" on bar 29/30
> Otherwise you are not on the correct side or order.
> But coming out of the Hands across, 1st and 2nd lady just head into the wrong
> direction and to change direction is - not that easy at that moment...
> So do we have something wrong? or is it just as we did it an the "natural
> breakdownpoint"?
>
> (I wouldn't mind an original description ;-))
>
>
> PETER HASTINGS’ CHOCOLATE MOUSE (J4x32) 4C set
> R Milne+Celtic Society
> 1- 8 1s cast 1 place while 2s dance up, 2s cast while 1s dance up & 1s
> turn 2H (4 bars)
> 9-12 1s+2s circle 4H round to left 1/2 way, 2s+1s+3s circle 6H round to
> left 1/2 way while 4s cross 2H
> 13-16 3s+1s+2s+4s circle 8H round to left 1/2 way
> 17-24 4s+2s dance RH across while 1s+3s dance LH across once round then
> all change wheels starting with 2M+1M to end 3(1)(2)4
> 25-32 All dance 1/2 Grand Chain, 4s & 3s cross RH while 2s+1s change
> places on sides RH & all set. 4 1 2 3
>
>
> Greetings,
> Anja
>
>
> --
> Anja Breest
> Cologne, Germany
>
> Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
> http://www.rscds-cologne.de
>
>
> Mail:
> Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
> Privat: anja.breest@girards.de

Dear Jan,

I replied privately because at the time all I could do in response was to
send Anja a copy of the instructions. I know that posting of entire
instructions is discouraged. If I had ever done the dance myself, I could
have commented from my memories of doing it.

However, the instructions for bars 5-12 read as follows :

5 - 8 1st couple turn giving both hands.

9 - 10 1st and 2nd couples dance four hands round half way

11 - 12 2nd, 1st and 3rd couples dance six hands round half way
while 4th couple cross over giving both hands.

Since Richard knew that I had originally danced with groups in Edinburgh, I
am sure that he would have expected the two-handed turns to have been done
in travelling step. The dance would certainly flow more easily between two
hand turns and hands round if that were the case...

I hope this answers Anja's question to your satisfaction.

kind regards

Peter Hastings
Murieston

-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Rudge [mailto:jan.rudge@hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: 30 September 2011 14:04
To: SCD news and discussion
Subject: RE: Peter Hastings' Chocolate Mouse/Mousse

If possible, it would be good to have a public reply rather than a private
one to Anja's original question too - I'm sure I'm not the only one
intrigued to know the solution.

Jan Rudge

Beaconsfield, UK

----------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:29:55 +0100
> From: andrew.buxton@yahoo.co.uk
> Subject: Re: Peter Hastings' Chocolate Mouse
> To: strathspey@strathspey.org
>
> We haven't tried this yet but in bars 5-8 (for 1s) and 11-12 (for 4s)
where they turn/cross 2H does that mean that they do a 2-handed turn PDB?
That seems to spoil the transition to/from the circles. It looks as though
it would work better in Strathspey but we shall see...
>
> -----
> Andrew Buxton
> Lewes, East Sussex, UK
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Anja Breest - Strathspey <strathspey@rscds-cologne.de>
> To: "strathspey@strathspey.org" <strathspey@strathspey.org>
> Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2011, 15:03
> Subject: Peter Hastings' Chocolate Mouse
>
> We had fun yesterdas trying this dance but...
>
> Can anybody give a hint how to survive bar 25?
> We started the half grand Chain with 4s &3s cross RH while 2s+1s
> change places - just as we "finish" on bar 29/30 Otherwise you are not
> on the correct side or order.
> But coming out of the Hands across, 1st and 2nd lady just head into
> the wrong direction and to change direction is - not that easy at that
moment...
> So do we have something wrong? or is it just as we did it an the
> "natural breakdownpoint"?
>
> (I wouldn't mind an original description ;-))
>
>
> PETER HASTINGS' CHOCOLATE MOUSE (J4x32) 4C set
> R Milne+Celtic Society
> 1- 8 1s cast 1 place while 2s dance up, 2s cast while 1s dance up
& 1s
> turn 2H (4 bars)
> 9-12 1s+2s circle 4H round to left 1/2 way, 2s+1s+3s circle 6H
round to
> left 1/2 way while 4s cross 2H
> 13-16 3s+1s+2s+4s circle 8H round to left 1/2 way
> 17-24 4s+2s dance RH across while 1s+3s dance LH across once round
then
> all change wheels starting with 2M+1M to end 3(1)(2)4
> 25-32 All dance 1/2 Grand Chain, 4s & 3s cross RH while 2s+1s change
> places on sides RH & all set. 4 1 2 3
>
>
> Greetings,
> Anja
>
>
> --
> Anja Breest
> Cologne, Germany
>
> Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
> http://www.rscds-cologne.de
>
>
> Mail:
> Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
> Privat: anja.breest@girards.de
=

Peter Hastings wrote:

> I replied privately because at the time all I could do in response was to
> send Anja a copy of the instructions. I know that posting of entire
> instructions is discouraged.

Peter, you're certainly entitled to post entire instructions of your own
dances if you want!

The policy only frowns on posting whole dance descriptions without the
original author's explicit consent, which is of course moot in the case of
people posting descriptions of their own dances.

Anselm
--
Anselm Lingnau, Mainz/Mayence, Germany ................. anselm@strathspey.org
I almost never let theory get in the way of practice. -- Larry Wall

Yes please Peter- my dancers gets stuck where the cream and the chocolate
has to be mixed.

Pia

-----Original Message-----
From: Anselm Lingnau [mailto:anselm@strathspey.org]
Sent: 30 September 2011 22:22
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Subject: Re: Peter Hastings' Chocolate Mouse/Mousse

Peter Hastings wrote:

> I replied privately because at the time all I could do in response was
> to send Anja a copy of the instructions. I know that posting of entire
> instructions is discouraged.

Peter, you're certainly entitled to post entire instructions of your own
dances if you want!

The policy only frowns on posting whole dance descriptions without the
original author's explicit consent, which is of course moot in the case of
people posting descriptions of their own dances.

Anselm
--
Anselm Lingnau, Mainz/Mayence, Germany .................
anselm@strathspey.org
I almost never let theory get in the way of practice. -- Larry
Wall

I did think that there would/could/should be no objection to an author
posting the entire description of their own work although I'm not entirely
sure even that should be encouraged.

I was unable to do so in this case because I am not the author. It is my
dance only in so much as it was written in my honour and I was presented
with a copy of it by Celtic Society.

Since I have lost touch with some of the authors I was unable to get their
blessing.

As to the name - perhaps the more timorous (or less nimble) might like to
dance "PHC Mouse" as a strathspey. I heartily approve of two-handed turns
and poussettes in strathspey time as an opportunity to flirt.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Anselm Lingnau [mailto:anselm@strathspey.org]
Sent: 30 September 2011 22:22
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Subject: Re: Peter Hastings' Chocolate Mouse/Mousse

Peter Hastings wrote:

> I replied privately because at the time all I could do in response was
> to send Anja a copy of the instructions. I know that posting of entire
> instructions is discouraged.

Peter, you're certainly entitled to post entire instructions of your own
dances if you want!

The policy only frowns on posting whole dance descriptions without the
original author's explicit consent, which is of course moot in the case of
people posting descriptions of their own dances.

Anselm
--
Anselm Lingnau, Mainz/Mayence, Germany .................
anselm@strathspey.org
I almost never let theory get in the way of practice. -- Larry
Wall

Peter Hastings wrote:

> I did think that there would/could/should be no objection to an author
> posting the entire description of their own work although I'm not entirely
> sure even that should be encouraged.

It used to be a reasonably good idea when the list was new – »Fire in the
Rye«, for example, is quite a popular dance hereabouts and I credit that to
the fact that Etienne sent a description out on Strathspey. (I certainly
remember my first encountering the dance »in the wild«, with Kerstin Kuhn
teaching it from a print-out of the Strathspey message.)

I agree that with the proliferation of the Web there are now various venues
that are probably better for the publication of new dances in the sense that
they may be easier to find later on. (There is the Strathspey Archive, of
course, but it isn't exactly meant for that sort of thing.)

> I was unable to do so in this case because I am not the author. It is my
> dance only in so much as it was written in my honour and I was presented
> with a copy of it by Celtic Society.

Yep, that makes sense – my bad. I haven't had occasion to try the delicacy in
question and so its connection with your person wasn't firmly enough in my
mind; I must have been under the impression that the dance was called
»Chocolate Mousse«, by Peter Hastings.

Anselm
--
Anselm Lingnau, Mainz/Mayence, Germany ................. anselm@strathspey.org
Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've
forgotten this before. -- Stephen Wright

Hello

Scottish country dancing made it to prime time news in New Zealand - for about 2 seconds! The item was the second item on the prime time news bulletin on Saturday October 1st.

A Scottish festival was held in support of the Scottish team for the Rugby World Cup and every aspect of Scottish life was there - pipe bands, children singing, accordions, fiddle players, highland dancers in large numbers performing at several locations, a parade that was led by about 20 highland terrier dogs (all on leads of course, with the owners following behind). The dogs looked as though people had spent days washing and brushing them.

Gavin Hastings (former Scotland captain) was there and interviewed - but I think that was for a different TV channel.

http://tvnz.co.nz/rugby-world-cup/ancient-foes-ready-rwc-battle-video-4430052

Best wishes

Katharine

PS The Scots weren't the only people unable to take national symbols (i.e. bagpipes) into the rugby matches. The French were not allowed to take roosters into their matches. Last week one man was caught trying to smuggle a rooster into stadium for the match of France vs NZ. I can't recall whether he was arrested or just received a police warning.

Hi Peter, Thanks for your reply, but I was referring to this question from Anja which started the thread:

> > Can anybody give a hint how to survive bar 25?
> > We started the half grand Chain with 4s &3s cross RH while 2s+1s
> > change places - just as we "finish" on bar 29/30 Otherwise you are not
> > on the correct side or order.
> > But coming out of the Hands across, 1st and 2nd lady just head into
> > the wrong direction and to change direction is - not that easy at that moment...
> > So do we have something wrong? or is it just as we did it an the
> > "natural breakdownpoint"?
I now see that you haven't danced the dance either (I was also under the impression from earlier comments that you had devised it) so I appreciate you might not have an answer to that one.
By the by, IMHO posting original instructions (or parts thereof) on the list can be a good thing if it is to correct or clarify a wrongly worded version that has already been posted - otherwise what's left for posterity in the archive for all to see is the "wrong" version. Just MHO though :o)

Best regards,

Jan Rudge

Beaconsfield, UK

----------------------------------------
> From: peter@kodiak-web-design.com
> To: strathspey@strathspey.org
> Subject: RE: Peter Hastings' Chocolate Mouse/Mousse
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:00:06 +0100
>
>
> Dear Jan,
>
> I replied privately because at the time all I could do in response was to
> send Anja a copy of the instructions. I know that posting of entire
> instructions is discouraged. If I had ever done the dance myself, I could
> have commented from my memories of doing it.
>
> However, the instructions for bars 5-12 read as follows :
>
> 5 - 8 1st couple turn giving both hands.
>
> 9 - 10 1st and 2nd couples dance four hands round half way
>
> 11 - 12 2nd, 1st and 3rd couples dance six hands round half way
> while 4th couple cross over giving both hands.
>
> Since Richard knew that I had originally danced with groups in Edinburgh, I
> am sure that he would have expected the two-handed turns to have been done
> in travelling step. The dance would certainly flow more easily between two
> hand turns and hands round if that were the case...
>
> I hope this answers Anja's question to your satisfaction.
>
> kind regards
>
> Peter Hastings
> Murieston
>

The description I received just says "turn giving both hands" without mentioning
PdB or Skip Change.
 
I am not a cook - but after going through this dance I asked somebody who is:
"Is it possible you have to stir the whole time while making the mousse?"
The answer was yes - so we decided to read it as "2 Hands Round circles" with
skip change, not PdB, for the same spoiling reason...
 
(And yes, somebody mentioned strathspeytime as well - but we where very brave
and stayed with the jig ;-) )

Greetings,
Anja
 

Andrew Buxton <andrew.buxton@yahoo.co.uk> hat am 30. September 2011 um 11:29
geschrieben:

> We haven't tried this yet but in bars 5-8 (for 1s) and 11-12 (for 4s) where
> they turn/cross 2H does that mean that they do a 2-handed turn PDB? That seems
> to spoil the transition to/from the circles.  It looks as though it would work
> better in Strathspey but we shall see...
>  
> -----
> Andrew Buxton
> Lewes, East Sussex, UK
>
 
 
--
Anja Breest
Cologne, Germany

Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
http://www.rscds-cologne.de

Mail:
Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
Privat: anja.breest@girards.de

Anja Breest wrote:

> The description I received just says "turn giving both hands" without
> mentioning PdB or Skip Change.

At this point it is probably worth bearing in mind that Peter is from
Edinburgh.

Anselm
--
Anselm Lingnau, Mainz/Mayence, Germany ................. anselm@strathspey.org
Palin apparently also supports hunting wolves from helicopters. I have no
linguistic point to make about this. Suffice it to say that I support the
right of wolves to bear surface-to-air missiles.
-- Bill Poser, »Sarah Palin's Favourite Meal«, _Language Log_

Ahhhh but....

PIa

-----Original Message-----
From: Anselm Lingnau [mailto:anselm@strathspey.org]
Sent: 30 September 2011 16:16
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Subject: Re: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse

Anja Breest wrote:

> The description I received just says "turn giving both hands" without
> mentioning PdB or Skip Change.

At this point it is probably worth bearing in mind that Peter is from Edinburgh.

Anselm
--
Anselm Lingnau, Mainz/Mayence, Germany ................. anselm@strathspey.org Palin apparently also supports hunting wolves from helicopters. I have no linguistic point to make about this. Suffice it to say that I support the right of wolves to bear surface-to-air missiles.
-- Bill Poser, Sarah Palin's Favourite Meal, _Language Log_

We tried this last night.  Jig time was not a success (we may not be so youthful as Cologne) but it makes a good strathspey.  Perhaps it could be "Peter Hastings' Chocolate Pudding"?

Andrew
 
-----
Andrew Buxton
Lewes, East Sussex, UK

________________________________
From: Anja Breest - Strathspey <strathspey@rscds-cologne.de>
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Sent: Friday, 30 September 2011, 16:01
Subject: Re: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse

The description I received just says "turn giving both hands" without mentioning
PdB or Skip Change.
 
I am not a cook - but after going through this dance I asked somebody who is:
"Is it possible you have to stir the whole time while making the mousse?"
The answer was yes - so we decided to read it as "2 Hands Round circles" with
skip change, not PdB, for the same spoiling reason...
 
(And yes, somebody mentioned strathspeytime as well - but we where very brave
and stayed with the jig ;-) )

Greetings,
Anja
 

Andrew Buxton <andrew.buxton@yahoo.co.uk> hat am 30. September 2011 um 11:29
geschrieben:

> We haven't tried this yet but in bars 5-8 (for 1s) and 11-12 (for 4s) where
> they turn/cross 2H does that mean that they do a 2-handed turn PDB? That seems
> to spoil the transition to/from the circles.  It looks as though it would work
> better in Strathspey but we shall see...
>  
> -----
> Andrew Buxton
> Lewes, East Sussex, UK
>
 
 
--
Anja Breest
Cologne, Germany

Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
http://www.rscds-cologne.de

Mail:
Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
Privat: anja.breest@girards.de

Hi Andrew,

Strathspey or jig, I'm sure the Celtic Society devisors would be delighted
to know it's bringing pleasure. I have to admit a weakness for two hand
turns in Strathspey time - most elegant.

If you feel the need to differentiate the two versions, perhaps the
Strathspey variant could be a Chocolate Mouse...

cheers

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Buxton [mailto:andrew.buxton@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 14 October 2011 11:25
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Subject: Re: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse

We tried this last night.  Jig time was not a success (we may not be so
youthful as Cologne) but it makes a good strathspey.  Perhaps it could be
"Peter Hastings' Chocolate Pudding"?

Andrew
 
-----
Andrew Buxton
Lewes, East Sussex, UK

________________________________
From: Anja Breest - Strathspey <strathspey@rscds-cologne.de>
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Sent: Friday, 30 September 2011, 16:01
Subject: Re: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse

The description I received just says "turn giving both hands" without
mentioning PdB or Skip Change.
 
I am not a cook - but after going through this dance I asked somebody who
is:
"Is it possible you have to stir the whole time while making the mousse?"
The answer was yes - so we decided to read it as "2 Hands Round circles"
with skip change, not PdB, for the same spoiling reason...
 
(And yes, somebody mentioned strathspeytime as well - but we where very
brave and stayed with the jig ;-) )

Greetings,
Anja
 

Andrew Buxton <andrew.buxton@yahoo.co.uk> hat am 30. September 2011 um 11:29
geschrieben:

> We haven't tried this yet but in bars 5-8 (for 1s) and 11-12 (for 4s)
> where they turn/cross 2H does that mean that they do a 2-handed turn
> PDB? That seems to spoil the transition to/from the circles.  It looks
> as though it would work better in Strathspey but we shall see...
>  
> -----
> Andrew Buxton
> Lewes, East Sussex, UK
>
 
 
--
Anja Breest
Cologne, Germany

Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
http://www.rscds-cologne.de

Mail:
Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
Privat: anja.breest@girards.de

Or perhaps Peter Hasting eating his chocolate mousse - slowly and elegantly
:>)
Pia

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Hastings [mailto:peter@kodiak-web-design.com]
Sent: 14 October 2011 21:25
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Subject: RE: Peter Hastings' Chocolate Mouse

Hi Andrew,

Strathspey or jig, I'm sure the Celtic Society devisors would be delighted
to know it's bringing pleasure. I have to admit a weakness for two hand
turns in Strathspey time - most elegant.

If you feel the need to differentiate the two versions, perhaps the
Strathspey variant could be a Chocolate Mouse...

cheers

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Buxton [mailto:andrew.buxton@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 14 October 2011 11:25
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Subject: Re: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse

We tried this last night.  Jig time was not a success (we may not be so
youthful as Cologne) but it makes a good strathspey.  Perhaps it could be
"Peter Hastings' Chocolate Pudding"?

Andrew
 
-----
Andrew Buxton
Lewes, East Sussex, UK

________________________________
From: Anja Breest - Strathspey <strathspey@rscds-cologne.de>
To: strathspey@strathspey.org
Sent: Friday, 30 September 2011, 16:01
Subject: Re: Peter Hastings’ Chocolate Mouse

The description I received just says "turn giving both hands" without
mentioning PdB or Skip Change.
 
I am not a cook - but after going through this dance I asked somebody who
is:
"Is it possible you have to stir the whole time while making the mousse?"
The answer was yes - so we decided to read it as "2 Hands Round circles"
with skip change, not PdB, for the same spoiling reason...
 
(And yes, somebody mentioned strathspeytime as well - but we where very
brave and stayed with the jig ;-) )

Greetings,
Anja
 

Andrew Buxton <andrew.buxton@yahoo.co.uk> hat am 30. September 2011 um 11:29
geschrieben:

> We haven't tried this yet but in bars 5-8 (for 1s) and 11-12 (for 4s)
> where they turn/cross 2H does that mean that they do a 2-handed turn
> PDB? That seems to spoil the transition to/from the circles.  It looks
> as though it would work better in Strathspey but we shall see...
>  
> -----
> Andrew Buxton
> Lewes, East Sussex, UK
>
 
 
--
Anja Breest
Cologne, Germany

Cologne Scottish Country Dancers
http://www.rscds-cologne.de

Mail:
Strathspeylist: strathspey@rscds-cologne.de
Privat: anja.breest@girards.de