saltire strathspey

Helen Russell

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Please ignore previous message about the Saltire s'spey. I was thinking of
the wrong dance!

yours in confusion

Helen Russell

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   1. RE: Books - popularity of contents (Dick Daniel)
   2. Collins pocket book (was Economic accessibility & governance)
      (Helen Beaney)
   3. Re: Collins pocket book (was Economic accessibility &
      governance (Monica Pollard)
   4. RE: Collins pocket book (was Economic accessibility &
      governance (Robert James Robertson McArthur)
   5. Re: Collins pocket book (was Economic accessibility &
      governance (Anselm Lingnau)
   6. simplified explanations of basic SCD figures (Jerome Reinstein)
   7. Re: Collins pocket book (was Economic accessibility &
      governance) (Thomas G. Mungall, III)
   8. Re: Collins pocket book (was Economic accessibility &
      governance (Thomas G. Mungall, III)
   9. Re: Books - popularity of contents (Diane Jensen Donald)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:23:19 +0100
From: Dick Daniel <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: RE: Books - popularity of contents
To: SCD news and discussion <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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I think "James B Cosh" deserves a place. His dances were cutting edge
inventive when written, and can still provide an enjoyable challenge.
Dick Daniel
Brig o' Weir> From: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:30:28 +0100> Subject: Re: Books - popularity of
contents> > Bristol will be holding a "Brodie" dance on 10th May. John
Drewry.> As the flyer states "> [All except two of these dances are
classified as "Brodie quality" by John > Drewry and listed in his Brodie
Book. They are his "crème de la crème". > This is just our selection from
that list, which we think you will really > enjoy.]> > > > This is the
second time we have run a programme of 'Brodie' dances, but the > first was
several years ago, and I do not remember the response.> > > > Andrew Smith,>
> Bristol, UK.> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Mackey"
<xxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>> To: "SCD news and discussion"
<xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:41 PM>
Subject: Re: Books - popularity of contents> > > > Anselm wrote:> > The
ratio of long-term favourites to »lemons« in a particular publication > > is
a> > measure of whether the publication was worth the trouble :^) (Now we
only> > need a definition of exactly what makes a »long-term favourite«.)
[*]> >> > ---------------------------------------------> > Off the top of my
head -> > I estimate that to expect roughly 2 worthwhile dances per
published > > book seems about right. There are a few early RSCDS books
which have > > larger number of dances but they are offset by the books of
12 dances none > > of which are ever done. There are exceptions, Book 20
being one that > > springs to mind and the two Frae a' the Airts books
contain quite a > > number.> > Talking of non-RSCDS books there are a number
of collections which are > > never visited, such as the Dorothy Bell
collections. This particular set > > contain many teaching dances but no-one
seems to have heard of them so > > they go about writing their own. There
are many other collections which > > contain great dances. We went through
many of John Mitchell's Wheatherley > > dances and found them of high
quality, as well as Barry Priddey, Iain > > Boyd, Barry Skelton, John Drewry
etc.etc. Roy Goldring, of course, holds > > a special niche of interesting
dances simply constructed. In class there > > were many greeted with
considerable applause but they only made the Class > > Hop programmes and no
local groups would follow our lead.> > To add interest to a longstanding
class I can recommend the idea of > > going through a single persons
collection just to assess the overall worth > > of their efforts. There are
many excellent dances which never see the > > light of the ballroom. One or
two new dances a week from a single > > collection can be an interesting
exercise as can the idea we tried once > > (it was successful so I wonder
why we didn't follow up?) of distributing > > un-tapped books to volunteers
in the class to read through and select > > dances they would like to try.>
> Happy Dancing :)> >> > Ron> >> > Ron Mackey> > RSCDS London, Croydon &
International Branches> > > >
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:52:47 +0100 (BST)
From: Helen Beaney <xxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Collins pocket book (was Economic accessibility & governance)
To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
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The Collins book and CDs are a good set, although many of the dances on the
first CD are round the room rather than set dances. But DON'T buy the book
from Amazon - it was going for £100 last time I looked. The RSCDS shop has
the reprint for £10 and the CDs for £13 each.

  Helen
  RSCDS International Branch and Dublin SCD Club (Ireland)

Peter Price wrote:
  I found a 2CD set by the Colin Dewar Quartet "Music for Collins Pocket
Reference Vol1 and Vol.2". IMHO the CPR and the CDs would be a very good
place to start.
If they then build up their library at the rate of 2-3 cds and 2 or 3 books
a year it won't be prohibitively expensive.

---------------------------------
 Yahoo! for Good helps you make a difference

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:09:19 -0600
From: "Monica Pollard" <xxxxxxx03@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: Collins pocket book (was Economic accessibility &
governance
To: "SCD news and discussion" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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I got my copy of the Collins book from TAC Books, $20 Cdn. Not sure
they have the CD or not.

Certainly don't get it from Amazon! They price it like a collector's item.

Monica

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Helen Beaney <xxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> The Collins book and CDs are a good set, although many of the dances on
the first CD are round the room rather than set dances. But DON'T buy the
book from Amazon - it was going for £100 last time I looked. The RSCDS shop
has the reprint for £10 and the CDs for £13 each.
>
> Helen
> RSCDS International Branch and Dublin SCD Club (Ireland)
>
> Peter Price wrote:
> I found a 2CD set by the Colin Dewar Quartet "Music for Collins Pocket
> Reference Vol1 and Vol.2". IMHO the CPR and the CDs would be a very good
> place to start.
> If they then build up their library at the rate of 2-3 cds and 2 or 3
books
> a year it won't be prohibitively expensive.
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! for Good helps you make a difference
>

--
"If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a
horrible warning."
Catherine Aird

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:13:52 +0100
From: Robert James Robertson McArthur <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: RE: Collins pocket book (was Economic accessibility &
governance
To: SCD news and discussion <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Thank you for all the suggested sources of training aids for the start-up
groups in Poland.

As I have already obtained copies of the excellent training video to assist
the groups who will be mainly self-taught in the first instance I will try
to identify cd's which cover the 34 selected dances used in the video. 34
dances should keep them occupied until we can sort out how to get volunteer
teachers over to them for training weekends.

Colin Dewar's CPR Vol 2 cd covers 7 of the dances, only 27 to find,
contained in the minimum amount of cd's!!.

Looks like I am in for a night of catalogue browsing tonight.

Regards

Bob McArthur
Scosha Group, Bournemouth UK

> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:09:19 -0600> From: xxxxxxx03@xxxxx.xxx> To:
xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: Collins pocket book (was Economic
accessibility & governance> > I got my copy of the Collins book from TAC
Books, $20 Cdn. Not sure> they have the CD or not.> > Certainly don't get it
from Amazon! They price it like a collector's item.> > Monica> > On Wed, Apr
16, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Helen Beaney <xxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:> > The
Collins book and CDs are a good set, although many of the dances on the
first CD are round the room rather than set dances. But DON'T buy the book
from Amazon - it was going for £100 last time I looked. The RSCDS shop has
the reprint for £10 and the CDs for £13 each.> >> > Helen> > RSCDS
International Branch and Dublin SCD Club (Ireland)> >> > Peter Price wrote:>
> I found a 2CD set by the Colin Dewar Quartet "Music for Collins Pocket> >
Reference Vol1 and Vol.2". IMHO the CPR and the CDs would be a very good> >
place to start.> > If they then build up their library at the rate of 2-3
cds and 2 or 3 books> > a year it won't be prohibitively expensive.> >> >>
> ---------------------------------> > Yahoo! for Good helps you make a
difference> >> > > > -- > "If you can't be a good example, then you'll just
have to be a> horrible warning."> Catherine Aird
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:42:27 +0200
From: Anselm Lingnau <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: Collins pocket book (was Economic accessibility &
governance
To: SCD news and discussion <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <200804161842.27544.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Bob McArthur wrote:

> Colin Dewar's CPR Vol 2 cd covers 7 of the dances, only 27 to find,
> contained in the minimum amount of cd's!!.

Here is where downloading single tracks off the Internet (for a suitable
fee)
would come in useful :^)

Anselm
--
Anselm Lingnau, Friedberg, Germany .....................
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Liberty without learning is always in peril and learning without liberty is
always in vain. -- John F.
Kennedy

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:55:01 +0100
From: "Jerome Reinstein" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: simplified explanations of basic SCD figures
To: "SCD news and discussion" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Can anyone point me to simplified explanations of basic SCD figures
(preferably with diagrams) that can be downloaded from the web?

The Manual is less useful for beginner dancers. I now have also the booklets
from Brian Charlton on 'Progressing through the Levels', which are very
helpful, but it would be good to let dancers have a place they can download
their own copies of explanations of figures. If the download were
accompanied by diagrams, it would be even more useful.

Jerry
London & Paris

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:48:01 -0500
From: "Thomas G. Mungall, III" <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: Collins pocket book (was Economic accessibility &
governance)
To: "SCD news and discussion" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Aye! If you have an old first edition Collins book it should be retired as
they have been selling for quite a lot on Ebay!

Tom Mungall
Baton Rouge, La, USA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Helen Beaney" <xxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>

The Collins book and CDs are a good set, although many of the dances on the
first CD are round the room rather than set dances. But DON'T buy the book
from Amazon - it was going for £100 last time I looked. The RSCDS shop has
the reprint for £10 and the CDs for £13 each.

  Helen
  RSCDS International Branch and Dublin SCD Club (Ireland)

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:48:47 -0500
From: "Thomas G. Mungall, III" <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: Collins pocket book (was Economic accessibility &
governance
To: "SCD news and discussion" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <00e401c8a003$44bc3430$9685xx48@X12XXX11XXXXXX>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

That is because the first edition IS a collectors item. :-)

Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Monica Pollard" <xxxxxxx03@xxxxx.xxx>

Certainly don't get it from Amazon! They price it like a collector's item.

Monica

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:50:16 -0700
From: "Diane Jensen Donald" <xxxxx.x.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: Books - popularity of contents
To: "SCD news and discussion" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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I was just thinking about this last night. I have a fairly old edition of
101 Scottish Country Dances that I was looking through, and I think I've
done three or four of them, but the rest of them are all dismayingly similar
and seem so old-fashioned and simple. I guess that's a pretty good ratio of
dances that survive through time, but it makes you wonder how many of the
dances that get written and set aside are worth digging up and trying...

Diane

Boise, Idaho

On 4/16/08, Dick Daniel <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
> I think "James B Cosh" deserves a place. His dances were cutting edge
> inventive when written, and can still provide an enjoyable challenge.
> Dick Daniel
> Brig o' Weir> From: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:30:28 +0100> Subject: Re: Books - popularity of
> contents> > Bristol will be holding a "Brodie" dance on 10th May. John
> Drewry.> As the flyer states "> [All except two of these dances are
> classified as "Brodie quality" by John > Drewry and listed in his Brodie
> Book. They are his "crème de la crème". > This is just our selection from
> that list, which we think you will really > enjoy.]> > > > This is the
> second time we have run a programme of 'Brodie' dances, but the > first
was
> several years ago, and I do not remember the response.> > > > Andrew
Smith,>
> > Bristol, UK.> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Mackey" <
> xxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>> To: "SCD news and discussion" <
> xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:41 PM>
> Subject: Re: Books - popularity of contents> > > > Anselm wrote:> > The
> ratio of long-term favourites to »lemons« in a particular publication > >
is
> a> > measure of whether the publication was worth the trouble :^) (Now we
> only> > need a definition of exactly what makes a »long-term favourite«.)
> [*]> >> > ---------------------------------------------> > Off the top of
my
> head -> > I estimate that to expect roughly 2 worthwhile dances per
> published > > book seems about right. There are a few early RSCDS books
> which have > > larger number of dances but they are offset by the books of
> 12 dances none > > of which are ever done. There are exceptions, Book 20
> being one that > > springs to mind and the two Frae a' the Airts books
> contain quite a > > number.> > Talking of non-RSCDS books there are a
number
> of collections which are > > never visited, such as the Dorothy Bell
> collections. This particular set > > contain many teaching dances but
no-one
> seems to have heard of them so > > they go about writing their own. There
> are many other collections which > > contain great dances. We went through
> many of John Mitchell's Wheatherley > > dances and found them of high
> quality, as well as Barry Priddey, Iain > > Boyd, Barry Skelton, John
Drewry
> etc.etc. Roy Goldring, of course, holds > > a special niche of interesting
> dances simply constructed. In class there > > were many greeted with
> considerable applause but they only made the Class > > Hop programmes and
no
> local groups would follow our lead.> > To add interest to a longstanding
> class I can recommend the idea of > > going through a single persons
> collection just to assess the overall worth > > of their efforts. There
are
> many excellent dances which never see the > > light of the ballroom. One
or
> two new dances a week from a single > > collection can be an interesting
> exercise as can the idea we tried once > > (it was successful so I wonder
> why we didn't follow up?) of distributing > > un-tapped books to
volunteers
> in the class to read through and select > > dances they would like to
try.>
> > Happy Dancing :)> >> > Ron> >> > Ron Mackey> > RSCDS London, Croydon &
> International Branches> > > >
> _________________________________________________________________
> The next generation of Windows Live is here
> http://www.windowslive.co.uk/get-live

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