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Message 22514 · 11 Sep 2000 02:50:35 · Fixed-width font · Whole thread

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Nevertheless, at the time Ronald Reagan was the duly-elected President of th=
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US, and as such was the Head of State of America. Unlike the UK where the=20
head of state and head of government are different, they are the same person=
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in this country. When you toast the President, you are toasting the venerabl=
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office, not the man (even if his name is used). It is a sign of respect for=20
our senior national and diplomatic office, and a sign of respect for the US,=
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just like saluting the flag. Given William J. Clinton's disgrace of the=20
office, however, I have recently heard toasts that specifically say "To the=20
Office of the President of the United States." I hope starting with the nex=
t=20
President, however, it returns to "To the President of the United States."

In a message dated 9/10/00 5:38:36 PM Central Daylight Time,=20
xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx writes:

<< Can't resist. I'm a former Brit and a longtime American. At the TAC
summer workshop dinner some years ago, the "loyal toast" was proposed.=20
I rose and drank to the Queen of Canada. Then (presumably in some kind
of spirit of equal treatment) someone proposed a toast to "the President
of the United States, Ronald Reagan." At which I and several other
Americans stayed seated with our glasses nowhere near our lips.=20
Apparently those arranging the dinner didn't get the difference between
a symbolic hereditary head of state and a controversial politician. >>

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Re=E0bhdtherf=F2rd Beurach MacIain =E0 Na Sti=F9bhartaich

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