On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Lee Fuell wrote: > Can anyone explain how (short of being an Olympic-level > long jumper or > Bolshoi ballet dancer) one can set and turn second corner, pass > one's partner by the right shoulder, and finish in double-triangles > position in only two bars?
The critical piece of information being that a member of the Bolshoi ballet
would have a version of the pdb that does not require one to close in 3rd
posn on the 2nd beat (providing only one step for travel - perfect candidate
for the centre-shoulder-pass, if you ask me...) - i.e. if you use an RSCDS
pdb, you can't pass someone AND finish back-to-back with them in one pdb.
You can be b-t-b, but not quite past. You can be past but not quite b-t-b.
Hmmm... Unless you pass front-to-front and turn 360 degrees during the
Now that we have the impossibility of the situation out of the way...
On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Lara D. Friedman~Shedlov wrote: > I am also a full cert. candidate and I have been told that > the way this is > generally done is to set to 2nd corner for 1 bar (instead of > 2), turn for > 2 bars, and then use the last bar to get round your partner and into > position for the double triangles. >
Interesting... this does seem to be the same "effective" phrasing as the
way we danced it when I did my cert., except that we didn't make it quite so
explicit. Suffice it to say that we cheated at both the beginning and the
end - a significant "anticipation" of the turn in the second bar of the
setting, and an acknowledgement that we could get past each other, but not
quite perfectly in double triangles posn, on the last bar of the turn by
dropping hands at the beginning of the bar. (Although we still managed to
adjust comfortably into position at the beginning of the 1st bar of the
double triangles.) Something tells me that the 1-2-1 phrasing Lara
describes would be neater, or at least more consistently executed by members
of the set. My only concern is that it could lead to "cheating into the
turn" on bar 1. Maybe a compromise - think of the turn as on bars 2&3, but
make sure to take hands in a relaxed fashion (not grabbing or offering hands
That said, I'm not sure what the RSCDS Examinations Board would accept as
being "correct" - always a point of discussion in the candidate classes I've
been part of. So one last piece of advice - get everyone doing it the same
way, have the class tutor bless the way you're doing it. Beyond that, you
can be sure the examiners are all sympathetic to the problems in the dance
and will be interested to see how you choose to cope with it.
The Golden Pheasant - a 42-bar jig for 3 couples (with thanks to our class
musician for the extra 2 bars).